This is the spot to get help from Hardy on Aloha :)
Subj: Re:Aloha Q & A
Date: 95-04-18 00:04:36 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Question 1: What is Aloha?
Answer 1: We wrote Aloha so that you could send and receive your AOL mail from your Newton.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-04-18 00:06:12 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I moved Phun 1's posting from Questions IV to here...
>(although I wish there were a way to make the
>"posted on" line say "Newton/Aloha" instead of Mac 2.5.1).
This is something that AOL must change. Aloha does not have any control over it.
>One neat thing I noticed... it logs in, gets the mail,
>and logs off - FAST! Much faster than a Mac or
>Windoze "Flash Session".
I do not make Aloha wait as long as the other clients during the connection phase when you are connecting to the 9600 baud and higher numbers so it speeds it up by a few seconds. The 2400 numbers need to be slowed down some so that is why there is the checkbox for <=2400 baud connections.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: I want to say aloha to Aloha ;-)
Date: 95-04-18 02:03:32 EST
From: AdamBosler
Posted on: America Online
Where can I get Aloha? I have AOL (obviously), but I also have Unix (ftp) access to the internet through my school.
AdamBosler@AOL.com
Subj: Re:I want to say aloha to Aloha
Date: 95-04-18 08:19:03 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Where can I get Aloha? I have AOL (obviously), but I
>also have Unix (ftp) access to the internet through
>my school.
You can ftp Aloha from ftp.amug.org. The directory for the *.hqx version is /newton/communications. The directory for the *.zip version is /newton/submissions.
You can also ftp Aloha from newton.uiowa.edu. The directory for both versions is /submissions.
Oh yeah, you can download Aloha from eWorld too. (GO: Newton, and look in the new files folder)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: -48205 error
Date: 95-04-18 08:22:04 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
A couple people have reported getting a -48205 error when Aloha tries to decode an email message.
This happens when you read an internet message that Aloha tries to split into multiple pieces. I will upload a fix for this a.s.a.p.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Questions
Date: 95-04-18 13:00:10 EST
From: MarkP29057
Posted on: America Online
OK I downloaded Aloha and read the text read me. First question is at the end it said, if AOL changes its host protocols, then no refunds will be made. If I spend 50 bucks on a shareware program it better WORK. So if AOL changes its host protocols, does that mean we're all stuck and theres nothing we can do about it, except wait for another month or so until a fix comes out for an additional fee? Second question is, the Newton is portable right? Well I take my Newt on vacation, and I need a different access number so it won't cost a fortune in long distance calls, how can I get the local number without carrying around several sheets of paper with every access number in the US on it? It seems that Aloha works good, but when I spend $50 I want make sure that I'm getting my money's worth. With the bugs that appear in new shareware programs, I just want to make sure of what I will be getting into.
Mark
Subj: Re:Questions
Date: 95-04-18 15:58:41 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Mark,
>First question is at the end it said, if AOL changes
>its host protocols, then no refunds will be made.
This is a disclaimer. Aloha was based on the Mac AOL client and chances are that AOL will not drastically change the protocols without releasing an update to the Macintosh client. Even when this happens they will still have to support the old MAC AOL clients.
Aloha is adaptiable, but if AOL changes the protocols in such a way that Aloha can not handle it then a patch will be released which will modify Aloha to work again with AOL at no additional fee.
>how can I get the local number without carrying
>around several sheets of paper with every access
>number in the US on it?
There are a number of ways. The first is to look in the online help of Aloha. Help->Prefs->Phone Numbers. There is a 800 number for SprintNet that you can call and get a local number in your current area code. Another way is that there is a NewtonBook of 1200 baud SprintNet numbers...(2400,9600,14000 numbers are available too but you must pay the registration fee first).
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Questions
Date: 95-04-18 21:05:54 EST
From: LeeMoon
Posted on: America Online
I've used a nice utility program called GeoAssist when I travel. It has a list of NewtonMail access numbers which, I believe, are mostly SprintNet access points. GeoAssist came a while back bundled on one of Apple's 2MB memory cards. It has the option of changing the NewtonMail phone number preference, but that doesn't automatically change Aloha (you'd have to copy the new number into Aloha).
Hope this helps,
Lee
Subj: Re:-48205 error
Date: 95-04-18 21:45:44 EST
From: BruceLWall
Posted on: America Online
I get the -48205 error when I am just trying to send a 4 line message from my notepad. My mailbox does not have any messages to read.
Bruce
Subj: Some Basic Questions
Date: 95-04-18 22:55:18 EST
From: Soibs
Posted on: America Online
A couple of basic questions about ALOHA?
How large a piece of e-mail can ALOHA download from AOL to the NEWTON? Is there a difference between whether the e-mail comes from an AOL person or from somewhere else on the internet?
Does ALOHA split the e-mail?
Is the downloaded e-mail a note?
thanks
Subj: First impressions
Date: 95-04-19 01:28:42 EST
From: Kirke
Posted on: America Online
Aloha works as advertised, and is a snazzy piece of software. The only drawbacks I see are:
* There isn't a button to extract mail to Notes
* It doesn't have a way to send to multiple people (yet?)
* It's a bit expensive at $50
* It doesn't properly reset the mailbox flag on AOL (when I log on after using Aloha, tells me I have new mail but no new mail).
I appreciate that it is smart enough to leave mail with attachments in my AOL box. It would be a nice option to have it leave all mail in the mail box (I'd like to be able to read my mail on my Newton, but still know I can easily access it from my Mac afterward).
I have a question too. Does the "Aloha 1.0" stamp at the end of mail I send go away if I register the program? I'm not sure the software is worth the price (for my needs), but I would like to know that that would be "fixed" if I did plunk out the cash.
Kirke
Subj: re kirke's message
Date: 95-04-19 05:56:24 EST
From: Soibs
Posted on: America Online
Will an e-mail message still appear on AOL in the "check messages you have read" option while on your MAC even after you have downloaded it to your Newton via ALOHA?
thanks in advance
Subj: Re:re kirke's message
Date: 95-04-19 07:47:39 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
After Aloha downloads messages from AOL they are automatically removed from the "incoming mailbox" on AOL.
(Attachments are left unread on AOL and sometime you will get a message that "this message is no longer available" and that message will stay unread on AOL)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Some Basic Questions
Date: 95-04-19 07:53:09 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha can download the largest email that you can send to it from AOL or from the internet.
Aloha will split the email into pieces to try to keep the heap space usage low. The are prefixed
(1) my message
(2) my message
...
The downloaded e-mail is put into the inbox. You can copy the mail message from your inbox to the NotePad using a couple different mail utilities. Apple's NewtonMail Modules work best. (You can download these from AOL)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Some Basic Questions
Date: 95-04-19 07:54:17 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha can download the largest email that you can send to it from AOL or from the internet.
Aloha will split the email into pieces to try to keep the heap space usage low. The are prefixed
(1) my message
(2) my message
...
The downloaded e-mail is put into the inbox. You can copy the mail message from your inbox to the NotePad using a couple different mail utilities. Apple's NewtonMail Modules work best. (You can download these from AOL)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:First impressions
Date: 95-04-19 08:00:51 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>* There isn't a button to extract mail to Notes
Load the Apple NewtonMail Modules. They are free and available on AOL.
>* It doesn't have a way to send to multiple people (yet?)
You can send to multiple people, but there is a limit to the number of people that you can send to. To send to multiple people you just have to separate their names on the "email address" line. For example: "HardyMacia, Kirke" will send it to both of us. The limit is 110 characters total for the subject and email address.
>* It's a bit expensive at $50
You can get upto a $10 discount but you need to read the ReadMe file.
>* It doesn't properly reset the mailbox flag on AOL (when I log on after using Aloha, tells me I have new mail but no new mail).
I'm not sure about this. I've never had a problem with my AOL mailbox not being set correctly after using Aloha. I'll try checking into this.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: A bit expensive????
Date: 95-04-19 14:26:01 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
After about a year of constant whining about how AOL doesn't support the Newton system, and how the unending litany of "I want AOL for my Newton" messages stating how much such support would be worth to them, Kirke offers his/her opinion that "It's a bit expensive at $50.00."
After two years of dog-like commercial Newton Packages like PresenterPad, Drawpad and DynoNote Pad that retail at the same "price point" yet have not corrected very basic problems, Hardy (in his quaint Vermonter way) produces an elegant piece of functioning work that satisfies an apparent crying need and is priced accordingly, AND has already released updates that deal with problems, and someone complains?
Where's AOL's version of Aloha? Where's the Microsoft offering? Has Apple supported AOL use? Just because a Newton "package" is physically small does not mean that it takes less effort to code. Perhaps the Newton community, which feels a crying need for such a package, should wait for Kirke's effort in that area...
T (of J and T, who doesn't use the Newton system for telecommunications and who pities Hardy for living up in the middle of nowhere, but who is in awe of his ability to detect a need and fullfill same and only ask for fair compensation for his efforts...)
Subj: Re:A bit expensive????
Date: 95-04-19 14:43:40 EST
From: Soibs
Posted on: America Online
I second that but while applauding Hardy lets not dump on Kirke. Fifty dollars is not too steep.
Subj: Re:A bit expensive????
Date: 95-04-19 17:59:08 EST
From: SoulBarn
Posted on: America Online
I paid my registration the first day. Sure, I'd love it if it cost less. I'd love it if AOL provided a client for free, like they do for other platforms. But I can't fault Hardy for making a product there was a need for, and pricing it as he sees fit. That's the marketplace, folks, and the fact that a cheapescape like me forked over the dinero means that - at least in my case - Hardy's estimate of what his software's benefit is worth was pretty accurate.
Dan
Subj: Re:A bit expensive????
Date: 95-04-19 18:00:39 EST
From: SoulBarn
Posted on: America Online
One other interesting point: It is Newton that has finally gotten me to pay for the shareware I use the most; because I really think that people provide genuine functionality...in fact, if not for shareware packages like Aloha, QuickFind, and Wake-up-Week, my Newton would be doing little more than emulating a stinkin' Tricorder.
Dan
Subj: Hats off to Aloha
Date: 95-04-19 19:27:07 EST
From: RobertT511
Posted on: America Online
At last, a way to keep up with my e-mail while away from my PC. Aloha is an excellent product and well worth the price (and even more worth it if it was around $25).
Subj: Re:Hats off to Aloha
Date: 95-04-19 20:07:51 EST
From: RobertM57
Posted on: America Online
Aloha is a great product and it is getting my $50 and my boss's $50. If you think the price is steep, remember with out it we had nothing, not even the courtesy of AOL's promise.
Folks, pay your shareware fees and send your thanks to the people who spend a lot of time making life easier for us... they deserve our support and a chance to make an honest buck.
Subj: Read Your Mail Manual
Date: 95-04-19 20:14:49 EST
From: MHichme
Posted on: America Online
Am I wrong or are most of the questions that have been asked thus far relate to the way the Newton handles the mail it recieves. For instance sending mail to multiple users or copying mail to the notepad are all things that should be taken care of by the Newton not Hardy's software. The only thing Aloha needs to do is get the mail from your AOL account to your Newton. How it is handled after that is up to Apple. Alot of the questions Hardy has answered thus far could have been can be answered simply by reading the Newton owners manual. Think of Aloha as a substitute for the onboard Newton mail client. Read your manuals...
my 2 cents
Subj: Aloha! what AOL refused to do!!!
Date: 95-04-19 20:23:53 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Since Aloha does what AOL refused to do on their own, at least they should allow it to be posted. Unless I am blind, it is not in any upload area. What is this "yet." AOL should have been the first to have the software that will allow you to spend more credit card money on AOL time. Wake up AOL!!!! You are not very nice, nor logical!!!
Matthew 41
"AOL for the newton without AOL's help or time, stupid AOL, stupid!!!"
Subj: Bullet error & fee
Date: 95-04-19 20:24:01 EST
From: Raggib
Posted on: America Online
Hi all-
I think that Aloha generates an error when you mail a message with a bullet in it. Or is this just me?
Also, $50 (or $45 or $40) seems really cheap compared to the $120/year minimum you are paying for AOL, especially since it is Slick, functional, and not a time sink...
$0.04
Rob (raggib)
Subj: Aloha's a bargain!
Date: 95-04-19 21:01:03 EST
From: Phun 1
Posted on: America Online
Raggib wrote:
<<Also, $50 (or $45 or $40) seems really cheap compared to the $120/year minimum you are paying for AOL, especially since it is Slick, functional, and not a time sink...>>
Or, more importantly, cheap compared to the money you're *not* having to pay for a NewtonMail/eWorld account.
Subj: -48404 error
Date: 95-04-19 22:11:55 EST
From: JOE12
Posted on: America Online
I've just downloaded Aloha, and other files mentioned in the readme file and have installed these packages onto my MP100. I have entered my AOL info and everything else. When I click connect I receive a Newton error -48404. Have I missed something, or is it a possible conflict with something I may have on my Newton?
Joe
Subj: -48404, -48205, & a comment
Date: 95-04-19 22:37:54 EST
From: EAGROSS
Posted on: America Online
MP100 w/ALOHA on 1meg SRAM:
1.I had consistent -48404 errors until I fiddled with the heap/reset; they are since gone.
2.I get consistent -48205 errors. Is there a fix for this yet?
3.I also would strongly prefer that ALOHA give me an option to leave my mail as unread until I log on from my desktop. Especially while the code is still a little buggy.
4.I agree with others that Hardy has a right to charge whatever the market will bear; on the other hand, I'd bet the market would bear $25 or $30 a lot better!
Still experimenting!
ed.
Subj: Re:Aloha! what AOL refused to do
Date: 95-04-19 23:05:39 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
<<Since Aloha does what AOL refused to do on their own, at least they should allow it to be posted. Unless I am blind, it is not in any upload area.>>
You're not blind--AOL has not given me permission to post it here. They don't want an access product posted here that hasn't gone thru AOL quality testing.
I wish it were otherwise... I was looking forward to seeing the download counter set a new record for this forum.
Why does Aloha print that Aloha 1.0 at the bottom of the page when I send a message to someone? Can this be stopped?
Mark
Subj: Re:-48404 error
Date: 95-04-20 21:35:44 EST
From: WLMoore
Posted on: America Online
I also get the -48404 error as soon as I tap the Connect button. I'm running on a MP110.
-Bill
Subj: -448205
Date: 95-04-20 21:56:03 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
I still get the -448205 error sometimes when I sign on. It seems to happen when I sign on and there is no mail for me to recieve. It still sends what I have to send if any, but says decodeing then pauses for about 15-20 sec. and then the error comes up. I close the error message and click (tap) on stop. Aloha stops and I can close it and all, but the phone connection is still on. I have to uplug the phone line to stop the beeps. Help!
Matthew 41
Subj: Re:-48404 error
Date: 95-04-20 22:09:52 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Try re-entering your (password, account name, and phone number) information again. Reset your Newton and then try connecting again.
I'm still looking into the -48404 error.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Aloha 1.01
Date: 95-04-20 22:13:34 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I've emailed out version 1.01 of Aloha to most of the users who I have corresponded with. I will try to get it up on the ftp.amug.org site as soon as possible.
This fixes:
* This fixes the -48205 error when you are trying to send mail. The problem only happened in mail messages with bullets embedded in them.
* It frees up a little more memory.
* It replaces the "Aloha 1.0" with "sent via Aloha 1.01". This message can be turned off. I plan on releasing a separate little app or have another developer write an app that will let you create signatures for your mail. Similar to how many of the other mail programs work.
* The lenght of the subject + to email address has been fixed so that it allows 110 character headers instead of 55 character message.
* You will not get "please disconnect before power off" messages anymore. The Newton will not go to sleep until after all mail is sent/received.
* I do not think this fixes the -48404 error. I will work on that more later.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Thanks
Date: 95-04-21 00:40:34 EST
From: Macross
Posted on: America Online
Mr. Marcia,
Thank you very much for providing for the Newton what AOL was capable of, but not willing to supply.
I only have a MP 100 and don't have enough RAM to use Aloha, but I tried it on another MP110 and it worked great.
I can assure you when I get a new Newton, I will very glady pay the $50 for Aloha.
And again, thank you, Sir, for this wonderful product.
And thanks Steve Case, for NOTHING!
Subj: Re:A bit expensive????
Date: 95-04-21 00:45:26 EST
From: Kirke
Posted on: America Online
Let me just say that I didn't intend my comment at "$50 is a bit steep" to be a dig at Hardy. It was meant as a statement of my own opinion of Aloha's value to me and an estimate about the price elasticity of demand for the product. That is, I don't really have much of a need to collect my AOL e-mail "on the road," so $50 (actually it's only $45 if you follow his instructions and $40 if you have already registered something with him) isn't really worth it, to me, for an AOL mail client. Also, I expect that (and this is just a guess) Hardy might get more money if he asked for less. If priced lower it would be a nice alternative to LunaMail for those of us with both internet and AOL account. In my opinion, Aloha is much nicer than LunaMail.
Having said all that, it doesn't matter what I think. As I said before, it is a very nice piece of software and performs as advertised. Unfortunately, it is advertised as an AOL MAIL reader. Clearly it would be impossible for an outsider like Hardy to develop the true Newton AOL client that AOL should have written. That is, e-mail is only a tiny part of AOL's appeal. I want full AOL access from the Newton. It really burns me up that other PDAs have that built in and we have to settle for an ingenious third-party (partial) solution.
Kirke
Subj: Re:Read Your Mail Manual
Date: 95-04-21 00:59:26 EST
From: Kirke
Posted on: America Online
Thanks for the suggestions (seriously). I hadn't used e-mail on the Newton before Aloha, so I didn't realize what was part of the built-in mail system and what was Aloha.
Here's a little trick that I just figured out after flipping through the manual. You can use your Names app like AOL's Address Book to create mailing lists. For example, you could create a card in your Names app with "AOL gurus" as the name and put "HardyMacia, J and T, PDA Craig" in the e-mail section. Then you can send e-mail to "AOL gurus" and automatically have those three names pop up in the To: line. This is more useful with AOL names than with other internet addresses because of the limit of 110 characters in the To: line. If you have a few addresses with long domain names, this won't help you much.
Kirke
Subj: Unread messages
Date: 95-04-21 01:38:23 EST
From: Jswu
Posted on: America Online
I just want to be completely clear about what happens to AOL e-mail with attachments.
Will Aloha download the text portion and then leave the message unread in the AOL inbox to download the attachment later?
Thanks,
Jswu
Subj: Almost great...
Date: 95-04-21 02:46:06 EST
From: T Sassoon
Posted on: America Online
Yes, Aloha works. And I'll probably buy it, but I have one pet peeve. Again, another $&^%*# mail package without a pulldown of local dial-in presets. In live in L.A.; between my house and my office I cross FOUR area codes, 310, 213, 818, and 805! And of course if I took a detour I could cross 714, 909, and maybe even 916 as well. NewtonMail drove me crazy with this until I found SKL's MailSaver, which is just perfect. Sure, I could keep the numbers in Names somewhere and paste them in. While the machine laughs at me, that is. If Aloha could also cut mail from the In-Box to the folder of my choice in the font of my choice, stripping headers along the way, the $50 would be on its way faster than a cat in a kennel!
Subj: Aloha on MP100
Date: 95-04-21 04:11:15 EST
From: Phun 1
Posted on: America Online
Macross writes:
<<I only have a MP 100 and don't have enough RAM to use Aloha, but I tried it on another MP110 and it worked great.>>
Works great on my MP100, but then I don't have any other packages installed on it. I guess if you have alot of other stuff there might not be enough room, unless you get a RAM card....
Which brings up a question (next message)
Subj: Aloha on RAM card
Date: 95-04-21 04:14:51 EST
From: Phun 1
Posted on: America Online
I have a MP100. Right now, I'm running Aloha just fine on the internal store. I plan to get a RAM card tho, and was wondering:
Will Aloha work on a RAM card? Will it keep all it's soups on that card?
Is there a way to *move* Aloha when I get the RAM card? Or will I just have to remove it and it's soups, then re-install it on to the card (not really hard to do - installation was a snap!)?
Subj: Aloha Version 1.01
Date: 95-04-21 09:59:42 EST
From: Bill Adams
Posted on: America Online
I installed it last night and it works great!
Hardy, thanks for your support!
Subj: Re:A bit expensive????(Kirke)
Date: 95-04-21 10:35:14 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
> I want full AOL access from the Newton. It really
> burns me up that other PDAs have that built in and
> we have to settle for an ingenious third-party
> (partial) solution.
Just to set the record straight, NONE of the PDAs with AOL have full access. The Magic Link is primarily a mail client, although you can also ask for news and stock reports. The Zoomer version is similar, except it can also get to the PDA Forum (that was not the case initially). The HP palmtops have no client--but they can run AOL's standard DOS software.
I've told AOL repeatedly that they should not only expand the number of handheld platforms supported, but they should offer greater access to the system.
That is the question! Will a future version of Aloha present the user with a list of New Mail and provide the option of whether or not to read it? Also, would it be possible for Aloha to allow forwarding of mail, and saving mail as unread after opening it? In other words, will future Aloha users be given the same functions that we currently have in the AOL mailbox? :D
I know - I'm not asking for a lot... :)
Skip Dahlgren
Co-Leader, BCS Online Forum
"Cross-Platform Computing is *much* safer than Downhill!" :)
Subj: Re:To Read or Not to Read :)
Date: 95-04-21 17:26:27 EST
From: MHichme
Posted on: America Online
>>>
That is the question! Will a future version of Aloha present the user with a list of New Mail and provide the option of whether or not to read it? Also, would it be possible for Aloha to allow forwarding of mail, and saving mail as unread after opening it? In other words, will future Aloha users be given the same functions that we currently have in the AOL mailbox? :D>>>
Newton Mail didn't even do that stuff :)
What your asking is for someone(apple) to actually put some thought into designing a very usefull email system. That is way out of the question:)
Subj: Thanks, Craig
Date: 95-04-21 22:24:05 EST
From: Macross
Posted on: America Online
PDA Craig,
I know as an original Newton owner that your support for our cause of getting AOL on the Newton has been unwavering.
So I just wanted to say thanks, and at least for now we have Aloha, which is all that most of us really wanted in the first place.
Subj: Enhancement Pack and a Q
Date: 95-04-22 01:52:40 EST
From: GMGraves
Posted on: America Online
Just thought I would mention that I purchased the Newton Enhancement Pack by Starcore and and find that it "completes" the Newton (as Apple should have). The Pack consists of a 2 MB Apple storage card which comes loaded with complete versions of Graffiti, Action Names and Agenda, and Newton utilities all for the cost of a 2MB memory card alone! The Graffiti hand writing recognition system works like Apple's should work but doesn't. I find it 100% accurate and it only takes about 20 minutes to learn.
The Action Names and Agenda integrates the Newton scheduler and Names filer database together to make both much more useful. The Utilities also seem to have some useful functions (although I have yet to fully investigate that package). With all three programs loaded, you still have almost 1.4MB left in the flash card for data. I Highly reccommend it.
Now a question for you Newton experts:
Suppose I'm visiting a client and have been taking copious notes at a meeting with my Newton/Graffiti. After the meeting, someone says "I'd like a copy of the notes you took, but I don't want a hard copy from the printer, I want a text file uploaded to my computer." --- O.K. How can one do this simple task without the Newton Connection computer software. Apple seems to have thought of every contingency for I/O except this one. Or am I missing something?
Thank you for your help.
Regards
George Graves
Subj: Aloha Patch
Date: 95-04-22 09:20:21 EST
From: JohnG63022
Posted on: America Online
I have a Newton 100. I also been having trouble with the decoding of incoming e-mail. There was an earlier mention of a patch. Aloha 1.01 - I believe. When will it posted to ftp.amug.org. I would like to buy the product, but not till it is fully functional.
Subj: Choke on Internet Mail
Date: 95-04-22 10:10:39 EST
From: DGoodman
Posted on: America Online
I've yet to get Aloha to work. When there's no mail, it says there is, and then produces with a -48205 while "decoding." Today, I tried again. There was an Internet message waiting. Aloha tried to retrieve it. After 'reading message 1 of 1' for two minutes (I'm initially patient), I stopped and disconnected. The message in the Inbox says there was an error, and I'd have to check mail already read with the real AOL software.
This is with Aloha 1.01.
After hearing success of others, I blindly emailed my registration fee when I initially installed. Still waiting for something to work.
Danny
Subj: 1.01 Acting A Fool
Date: 95-04-22 11:00:05 EST
From: Bill Adams
Posted on: America Online
Although I had initial success with the new 1.01 version of Aloha, I have since found that I am experiencing that same -48205 error, along with a -48200 error which follows shortly thereafter.
A minute or two after receiving the -48200 error, my Newton performed a spurious reboot. This is something my Newton has never previously experienced.
There appears to be major insects lurking within this program that I'm sure will require yet another increment in revision.
Please help.
BTW, I have a pretty "stock" Newton MP 120 with 2meg RAM. The only extras used are Pocket Quicken, Shortcuts and the Memory and Software Managers that come with Newton Utilities.
Subj: Re:Thanks, Craig (Macross)
Date: 95-04-22 11:43:55 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Thanks for the thanks :) But when it comes to Aloha, thank Hardy--he deserves all the credit for that one.
Craig
Subj: Re:1.01 Acting A Fool
Date: 95-04-22 11:47:06 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Those of you getting the error... perhaps you can post exactly what other programs you have on your Newton.
I've never run into the errors using a 120 and 2 meg card that has all sorts of junk on it.
Have you tried installing the NewtonMail Modules and Inbox Expander as Hardy recommends?
How did the author of Aloha get the protocols from AOL in order to send and receive mail. Did he get it by watching what the AOL software does over the serial line or does AOL now plublish the codes somewhere? What are the chances of getting a copy of AOL's protocol? Could someone send a copy to CE software so that we can finaly get a QuickMail client for AOL?
Mark Granger
Subj: Re:1.01 Acting A Fool
Date: 95-04-23 18:03:03 EST
From: BDWong
Posted on: America Online
I keep getting the -48205 error message. I get it:
1. when downloading AOL mail
2. when sending AOL mail (sometimes)
3. when getting email from the internet (sometimes)
I do have the inbox expander installed and the newton mail modules.
As for other applications, they are all archived with Newtcase v1.1.
Also I have to reset a whole lot, especially since I've never had to do it before, and I used HeapIt for the Heap.
Does anyone know where I can find version 1.01, I was going to send in my registration money but I started to get all these problems. Please I WANT to send Hardy my money for such a great package, but I really would like it to work(without having to reset so much and to get my mail intact).
Barry
(I am using an MP100 with my destop GV Gold modem)
Subj: Re:1.01 Acting A Fool
Date: 95-04-23 18:58:48 EST
From: RayKloss
Posted on: America Online
The problem with the errors may be that you are running programs from an archived version. I have had similar errors with NewtCase 2.1 (a nice upgrade) and other programs (not Aloha) that use a lot of heap or such. Are you running it from and unarchived version?
Ray Kloss
Subj: Re:Unread messages
Date: 95-04-23 21:31:36 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Will Aloha download the text portion and then leave
>the message unread in the AOL inbox to download
>the attachment later?
No. Aloha ignores the whole message and leaves it in your inbox to download later.
Sorry, I haven't been keeping up, but I've been away from access since Thursday and won't be back to full access until tomorrow.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Almost great...
Date: 95-04-23 21:33:45 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
A customizable pull-down for numbers will be one it's way, but I wrote the bare minimum to start. The phone list will become available as soon as I find the time.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha on RAM card
Date: 95-04-23 21:35:16 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
All you need to do is install Inbox-expander by Ben Gottlieb and keep the card prefs set to "Store new items on card" and Aloha will up the card.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:To Read or Not to Read :)
Date: 95-04-23 21:38:02 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Presenting a list of mail would be possible and allow you to check or uncheck what to download.
You can forward messages by installing the NewtonMail Modules (see Newton Tips #043)
The putting read mail back into the unread area I'm not sure if I can do that or not.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha on RAM card
Date: 95-04-23 21:39:43 EST
From: DPOMPEA
Posted on: America Online
Phun 1 writes about: Aloha on RAM card
>I have a MP100. Right now, I'm running Aloha just fine on the internal >store. I plan to get a RAM card tho, and was wondering:
>
>Will Aloha work on a RAM card? Will it keep all it's soups on that card?
>
I use in on a ram card (1meg) all the time. The only soup, that I'm aware of, is the InBox soup. So, without InBox Expander, all mail is stored internal. Aloha, like most other programs, does keep it's prefs (ph#,username . . .) in the System Soup.
>Is there a way to *move* Aloha when I get the RAM card? Or will I just >have to remove it and it's soups, then re-install it on to the card (not >really hard to do - installation was a snap!)?
Sure, just use Scroll Extras or other package mover apps. - I've done it. No need to worry about the soups.
- Dave
Subj: Re:1.01 Acting A Fool
Date: 95-04-23 21:49:51 EST
From: DPOMPEA
Posted on: America Online
PDA Craig wites about:
>Those of you getting the error... perhaps you can post exactly what other >programs you have on your Newton.
>
>I've never run into the errors using a 120 and 2 meg card that has all >sorts of junk on it.
I'd just like to add my $.02 . I've been running Aloha on my 100 and 110 for many, many days, lots of email, with absolutly 0e-00 problems. Both with a Newton Modem and PP14.4k.
Without InBox Expander, In/Out box mail is stored internally. Do you have enough memory ?
Are you using any archive app on Aloha? I'm not.
Do you have enough free heap ? I have at least 40k .
Check you Aloha prefs. Did you maybe have any *garbage* characters for your ph#, E-Mail account, Password ?
Subj: Re:1.01 Where is it?
Date: 95-04-23 22:04:29 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
AOL lost my attachment Hardy sent me the update. Can someone send the 1.01 verson to me at Matthew 41? Thank you.
Matthew 41
Subj: AOL Access 4/24/95
Date: 95-04-24 10:02:25 EST
From: SECUREX
Posted on: America Online
I have a MP100. What is the best way to connect to AOL to send and receive e-mail? I have a 2mg flashcard that I do not want to remove so the hardware that I can use will have to connect to be external. What software is best suited for AOL? It appears from these comments that Aloha may not be the answer?
Thanks !!!!!
Subj: Re:AOL Access 4/24/95
Date: 95-04-24 11:30:19 EST
From: PDC Ben
Posted on: America Online
<<It appears from these comments that Aloha may not be the answer? >>
On the contrary, Aloha is the best answer for two reasons...1) It's the ONLY answer ;-) and (2) it works darn well (for most everyone.). I use it, and have had no problems...Hardy's done an excellent job with this one!
Ben Gottlieb (PDC Ben)
PDA Forum Consulant
Keyword PDA is how to find us!
Subj: Re:AOL Access 4/24/95
Date: 95-04-24 18:39:20 EST
From: Evil Tiggy
Posted on: America Online
Can Someone Please E-mail me Aloha or forward it to me?
I've had no luck at either of the web sights.
Thanks
-Evil Tiggy
Subj: Re: Aloha Error (-48404)
Date: 95-04-24 20:24:09 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Chris,
>Help! Downloaded Aloha from the net and after
>loading it and setting preferences, all I get is a
>"Sorry, a problem has occured (-48404)" error.
I have just gotten some more info on this error and I will try to fix it asap. I haven't examined the debugging information the other user has sent me yet, but I will tonight and will followup on this.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Latest Version, Hang on Sending
Date: 95-04-26 21:27:21 EST
From: Chartrand
Posted on: America Online
Where is the latest version of Aloha? I think Hardy sent it to me - but I can't find it. I looked at a couple FTP sites - but I'm not sure what version they have. Maybe someone could send it to me? I think I need the bullet fix that the latest version has.
Also, I've had some cases where Aloha seems to hang on sending message - anyone else have that happen. It seems to be happening a lot this evening - not sure if it's a fluke or it's going to become a way of life.
Subj: Re:Latest Version, Hang on Sendi
Date: 95-04-26 23:22:40 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
The "hang" on sending this evening may be your local node or AOL. At peak times, the system can get a bit backlogged (ever get a "For some reason, the host has failed to respond" dialog). IF that's the case, Aloha *may* hang simply because it's waiting for AOL. I'm not sure what Hardy does about the dialog IF it tries to send to the Newt.
I will be uploading 1.02 to these sites later today.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Hang on Sending
Date: 95-04-27 08:57:06 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> I've had some cases where Aloha seems to hang on sending message
There is one case where Aloha will hang on sending a message. I'm looking into this. The best work around to get the message to send is to add or remove a couple lines from the message.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.02
Date: 95-04-27 16:44:28 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
What does fixes 1.02 include?
Matthew 41
Subj: Newton 100: Worth It?
Date: 95-04-27 23:28:53 EST
From: Dr S Lee
Posted on: America Online
To any Newton Users:
I was thinking about buying a Newton 100 since they're only $199.00 mail order these days. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it's worth it. Is there a really big difference between the Newton 100 and the Newton 120?
Also, I was hoping to use the Newton to take fairly extensive notes during lectures that I attend. Is this possible on the Newton 100 (or 120)?
Is there a difference in the handwriting recognition capabilities in the two versions?
Can anyone point me to any good articles comparing the two? (or even just a good review of the either one)
Thanks,
Steve
Subj: Message Downloading Problems
Date: 95-04-28 04:17:29 EST
From: Jswu
Posted on: America Online
I have a experienced a downloading problem several times. Aloha says that I have mail, but logs off before downloading all or some of the mail. I can usually retrieve the mail by connecting again.
Subj: Re:Message Downloading Problems
Date: 95-04-28 18:48:38 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>I have a experienced a downloading problem several
>times. Aloha says that I have mail, but logs off
>before downloading all or some of the mail. I can
>usually retrieve the mail by connecting again.
I think this is a bug that sneaked into 1.02. It seems that if you send mail and you have mail to receive it will get the mail list decode it and then not download any of the mail. I'm planning on releasing a 1.03 tomorrow and I'll fix this bug at the same time.
Hardy Macia
Catamount
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.02
Date: 95-04-28 18:50:46 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
1.02 fixes a couple bugs (-48204 and -48405) that some, but not all of the users were experiencing, and adds one (see the previous post).
The main feature that it adds is multiple phone number support.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: new feature?
Date: 95-04-28 23:38:48 EST
From: Men2Model
Posted on: America Online
Could a future version of Aloha do a quick line test to see if the phone jack that Newt is plugged into is live?
Subj: Re:new feature?
Date: 95-04-29 09:16:14 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Could a future version of Aloha do a quick line test
>to see if the phone jack that Newt is plugged into is
>live?
You mean other than just tapping connect and see if it starts dialing? If it starts dialing then you can tap stop.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re: Aloha Error (-48404)
Date: 95-04-29 17:54:28 EST
From: CJSparno
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
I went ahead and a) redownloaded, and b) reinstalled on my Newton 100 and it seems to have fixed the problem. A very impressive program. Great job!!
My only question so far is that some of my mail apps, such as PowerNews, seem to pop-up Aloha instead of dialing eWorld through the normal in-box process. I have removed Aloha to prevent this (I am an avid PowerNews fan and user). Any ideas on this one?
Regards,
Chris
Subj: Aloha what to do?
Date: 95-04-29 21:17:48 EST
From: Tigercaron
Posted on: America Online
Well, I down-loaded the ALOHA file. What I got was aloha.hqx now what?
Gary
Subj: Re: PowerNews
Date: 95-04-29 21:18:02 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Chris,
First off, you can now get PowerNews delivered to your AOL account. It's not limited to just NewtonMail anymore.
Aloha pops up because by default it has the preference checked "[ ] Open Aloha when mail is put in outbox". Uncheck this and Aloha will not open up when mail is placed into the outbox anymore.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Version 1.03
Date: 95-04-29 21:20:30 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Version 1.03 is now available. If you would like me to email it to you then please send me (HardyMacia) an email stating so from your AOL account and I'll send out a copy to those of you who have not received it already.
1.02 adds multiple phone number support and fixes some bugs.
1.03 fixes some more small bugs.
HardyMacia
Catamount Software
Subj: Chron?
Date: 95-04-30 09:26:36 EST
From: Men2Model
Posted on: America Online
found this app but nobody seems to talk about it..supposedly schedules your Newt to send/receive mail or pick up news? Is it any good/needed with Aloha?
Subj: Re:Latest Version, Hang on Sendi
Date: 95-04-30 09:54:50 EST
From: A Midiot
Posted on: America Online
Last night I tried 3x to send a simple 1 page text email and was not able to do so. Ahola would "hang" on the send. No freeze, just a hang like it was waiting for a handshake or something. This was on a MP120 using Aloha v1.0 with Apple PCMCIA faxmodem. This morning I sent the message successfully. I wonder if the problem was one with saturated activity on AOL, or even the PCMCIA modem. I had seen problems like this with LunaMail.
In fairness, I just realized that I had archived most of my Newton mail module patches. However, I don't see how that could have affected sending 1 message.
Still Aloha seems much better behaved and requires less resources and configuration than LunaMail.
Subj: Great!
Date: 95-04-30 22:27:56 EST
From: DeBerg
Posted on: America Online
Just wanted to say thanks to HardyMacia. What a super app! I have 1.0.3 up and running and couldn't be happier. Sent my registration fee in yesterday!
After receiving error messages, I followed the advice from another post and re-downloaded Aloha and installed it again. Haven't had any problems since.
DeBerg
Subj: Aloha! 1.03 release Request
Date: 95-04-30 22:35:54 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
It would be nice to be able to demo the new release (1.03) for seven days. I was early to install 1.0 a few weeks ago and had some errors downloading messages. My seven days expired and then the fixes came out 1.01, 1.02, and now 1.03. I do not want to use your software for free. I wish to be able to pay for a product that works on my newt. Please consider this request in the next Aloha! release.
Matthew 41
Subj: First AOL, First Class Next?
Date: 95-04-30 22:47:24 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Does anyone have any information about a Frist Class BBS client for the newton? I know a company named Black Labs was developing one, but does it work well? Could Hardy do a BBS client next?
Matthew 41
Subj: Re:First Class
Date: 95-04-30 23:28:18 EST
From: MAge Prods
Posted on: America Online
Hardy could probably hack his way into this nether world better known as SoftArc FirstClass. However, BlackLabs has done a fantastic job of creating and supporting Retriever and Retriever+.
Hardy, thanks again for filling such a void of attention, namely an AOL client.
gb
MAge
Subj: Re:Aloha and MessageBoards
Date: 95-05-01 16:32:37 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>By the way, is there any way to have this discussion
>group mailed to me so I can read it offline with
>Aloha?
I don't think so. I could probably set up a service that you would subscribe for $6-$10 a month that I would forward all of the Newton message board postings to you and maybe a gold level subscription that will let you post messages. Kind of the same way that PowerNews works.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Latest Version, Hang on Sendi
Date: 95-05-01 16:42:23 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I emailed you version 1.03 of Aloha.
>This was on a MP120 using Aloha v1.0 with Apple
>PCMCIA faxmodem
There have been some reported problems with the Apple PCMCIA faxmodem not working, but I do not have an Apple PCMCIA modem yet to test Aloha with.
Sometimes heavy AOL or SprintNet usage will hang Aloha. If you try it again if a few minutes it usually connects. You might want to try an alternate number also.
Archiving the NewtonMail modules will not affect Aloha. (It might actually be better for Aloha because you will have freed up some heap space)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Chron?
Date: 95-05-01 16:43:50 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I doubt that Chron will work with Aloha, but you might try contacting the author (Greg Christie, I think) and ask him if he wants to add support for Aloha.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha what to do?
Date: 95-05-01 16:49:25 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>What I got was aloha.hqx now what?
You need to use StuffIt Expander if you have a Mac to unbinhex the file.
If you have a DOS machine then you need UNSITINS.EXE which is available in the PDA software libraries General/Utilities section.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha and MessageBoards
Date: 95-05-01 18:33:06 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
>By the way, is there any way to have this discussion
>group mailed to me so I can read it offline with
>Aloha?
> I don't think so. I could probably set up a
> service that you would subscribe for $6-$10 a
> month that I would forward all of the Newton
> message board postings to you and maybe a gold
> level subscription that will let you post
> messages.
Sorry, that one cannot be done without inviting some real trouble. For any third party to set up a subscription service for AOL messageboard posts would violate AOL copyrights and TOS.
Craig
Subj: where can I get aloha 1.03
Date: 95-05-01 20:45:20 EST
From: Soibs
Posted on: America Online
Hi
I would like to try Aloha out?
Where is the latest version, 1.03 posted?
thanks
soibs@aol.com
Subj: Do I get charged....?
Date: 95-05-01 21:51:42 EST
From: USF SAE
Posted on: America Online
I've found that one of the best uses for aloha is use aol to subscribe to an internet mailing list, an active one such as the one for SYBASE databases, and then dial up and download some interesting reading into my newton. However at 2400bps I've spent close to 15 minutes downloading my mail at least 2 times( and I haven't had the software for long). So that adds up to more than a half hour of on-line time. My question is: Is my AOL account being properly charged? I love the software, but being loyal to the spirit of the on-line world I would have to stop using it if it turns out I'm ripping AOL off.
Thank you and great job on the software.
Tom
Subj: Re:where can I get aloha 1.03
Date: 95-05-01 23:11:52 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
You can find the latest version of Aloha at AMUG (ftp.amug.org) and on UIOWA (newton.uiowa.edu). You can use keyword FTP to reach those areas.
Please email me if you want version 1.03 deliveried to your email box.
I will also be uploading Aloha version 1.03 to newton.uiowa.edu and ftp.amug.org later tonight.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Do I get charged....?
Date: 95-05-01 23:15:22 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
You are getting charged for the time online when downloading Internet mail lists. AOL does "see" Aloha and starts your meter once you're past the password stage.
Yes, your AOL account gets charged for the time that you are connected with Aloha.
Aloha takes a long time to decode a lot of messages especially from the internet because it also decodes the header information. When the new version of the Newton ToolKit is released I will, hopefully, release a new version of Aloha that has the decompiling function compiled and will be much faster than the current version. So, your 15 minute connect sessions might only be 5 minutes.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Aloha, AOL & Newton
Date: 95-05-02 00:20:40 EST
From: GP KART
Posted on: America Online
Well Ive had AOL for about 6 months, my first Newton for about 2 weeks and Aloha 1.03 for about two days. (Ive since bought 2 more Newtons)
What a great SYSTEM !!!
I have to compliment HardyMacia and Catamount software for a product that ties everything together. When Im not at my office and I pick up my E-Mail via Newton/Aloha, it just amazes me !!!!!
and the reaction from others when they find out I sent them E-Mail via a Newton !!!
When I have called on Hardy for support he has been very NICE and very helpful.
Get Aloha, you'll love it !!!! It makes the Newton a much more important tool.
GP KART
Subj: Re:Aloha and MessageBoards
Date: 95-05-02 17:53:08 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
>>By the way, is there any way to have this discussion
>>group mailed to me so I can read it offline with
>>Aloha?
>> I don't think so. I could probably set up a
>> service that you would subscribe for $6-$10 a
>> month that I would forward all of the Newton
>> message board postings to you and maybe a gold
>> level subscription that will let you post
>> messages.
>Sorry, that one cannot be done without inviting >some real trouble. For any third party to set up a >subscription service for AOL messageboard posts >would violate AOL copyrights and TOS.
>Craig
I would like to know the TOS that makes what I am typeing right now copyrighted, this may be a reason to cancel my account.
Matthew 41
Subj: Aloha - wow!
Date: 95-05-02 18:50:07 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
I got Aloha 1.03 last night, and I've tried it out a couple times, both sending and receiving. Great!
I especially like having the pop-up telephone number box, and the fact that Aloha tells me what number it's dialing - that way I can nail the STOP button when it turns out I've still got it set for work (dial 9 first) when I get home. 8-{)
I'm about to download Register so I can send in the money!
Larry
Subj: AOL / Newtonmail Numbers
Date: 95-05-02 21:55:33 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
How does one determine which AOL access numbers are Sprintnet and which aren't?
I have GeoAssist on my newt, which has a listing of Newtonmail Access numbers. I observe that the AOL and Newton Mail numbers for Napierville Illinois and Madison Wisconsin are the same - does this mean I can use the numbers listed in Geoassist with a reasinable chance of success? Or is there a better way to determine what number to use if I plan to go traveling?
Larry
Subj: Re:AOL / Newtonmail Numbers
Date: 95-05-02 22:47:49 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
The 1-800 SprintNet information number is in the Aloha Help screen. (Help->Prefs->Phone Number). You can call and get a local access number thru that number.
If GeoAssist has the list of SprintNet numbers then you will have an reasonable chance of success. NewtonMail, AOL, and eWorld all use the SprintNet network as their main network to connect. (They also use alternate networks such as Tymnet, but tymnet is not supported by Aloha)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
(802) 863-5256
Subj: Re:Aloha and MessageBoards
Date: 95-05-02 23:07:55 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
> I would like to know the TOS that makes what I am typeing right
> now copyrighted, this may be a reason to cancel my account.
Matthew,
There is nothing "evil" or underhanded, or even untypical, about this. ALL online services claim a compilation copyright on message postings. If I understand it correctly, you still hold rights to what you post, but certainly not what I or others post. If any individual started selling these posts (or other information in the forum) for profit, it would violate AOL's compilation copyright AND the individual copyrights. It also would violate TOS. AOL DOES allow you to copy messages and other works here for your own personal use (unless there is some indication to the contrary on the material).
If I were to post CIS or eWorld messages here without permission, or distribute them for sale, it would be the same type of copyright violation AND a violation of their terms of service. I have yet to encounter a commercial service that doesn't claim rights to the content.
I've posted one of the applicable sections of AOL's Terms of Service below. You can see all the rules of the road at keyword TOS -- it's a free area.
Craig
From Member Responsibilities, Section 2.6a:
...All Content is copyrighted as a collective work under the U.S. Copyright laws, and AOL Inc. owns a copyright in the selection, coordination, arrangement and enhancement of such Content. Member may not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale, create derivative works, or in any way exploit, any of the Content, in whole or in part. If no specific restrictions are displayed, Member may make copies of portions of the Content, including copyrighted material, trademarks, or other proprietary materials, provided that the copies are made only for Member's personal use and that Member maintains any notices contained in the Content such as all copyright notices, trademark legends or other proprietary rights notices...
Subj: Re:Aloha and MessageBoards
Date: 95-05-03 16:22:04 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Thank you for the response...
Can I copyright this?
Matthew 41
(c) Matthew Johnson, 1995, All rights reseved
Subj: Re:AOL / Newtonmail Numbers
Date: 95-05-03 17:29:01 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
Okay!
It's unlikely I'm going to need anything other than Chicago and Madison, Wisconsin area numbers for the forseeable future, but if the 800 number is in Aloha help, then it will always be handy if I need one!
Thanks again!
"The Check is in the Mail!"
Lars
Subj: Re:AOL / Newtonmail Numbers
Date: 95-05-03 22:05:05 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>but if the 800 number is in Aloha help, then it will
>always be handy if I need one!
That's right. You can even tap on the number in the help screen and it will popup the auto dial slip.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Do I get charged....?
Date: 95-05-04 10:35:48 EST
From: USF SAE
Posted on: America Online
I'm really happy to here about this. Congratulations on an excellant product.
Subj: That mail is no longer...
Date: 95-05-04 18:26:30 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
When I checked mail from Aloha at work today, I got 1 of 3 messages in it's entitity, and the next 2 came through as just a line saying "That mail is no longer available or is not accessible to this account."
Does this message come from Aloha or from AOL, and what does it indicate? (other than that the text didn't make it to the Newton) 8-{)
The 2 unreceived messages weren't especially long when I checked them from my PC at home.
Larry
Subj: Package Support???
Date: 95-05-04 18:46:44 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
When (will) Aloha have sending and recieving package support? This would be neat. Would it be similar to beaming packages?
I registered with Register, it was easy!
Matthew 41
Subj: Re:Package Support???
Date: 95-05-04 23:10:27 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>When (will) Aloha have sending and recieving package support?
Chances are good that you will not see this for a very long time. I think I can probably do it, but I have other projects that need more of my time now than adding new features to Aloha.
I will be adding the ability for you to use multiply accounts via Aloha, but this is the only item on the upcoming drawing boards.
Hardy
Subj: Re:That mail is no longer...
Date: 95-05-04 23:14:01 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>"That mail is no longer available or is not accessible to this account."
This message is generated by AOL because Aloha is not sending it the correct message id of the message to download. I'm still looking into this problem. It happens randomly. I can download 50 messages and then the 51st message id might be incorrect.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:That mail is no longer...
Date: 95-05-05 16:58:31 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
I noticed that one at least one of the 2 messages I received that the address was cut off after the 16th character. I'm not sure about the second one - It may have been exactly 16 characters long.
Both messages were there when I logged in from the PC.
So even if Aloha doesn't get the messages, it does tell me there's mail to look at later. That's helpful, and it works much quicker than the PC. (And I don't have AOL at work anyway.)
Larry
Subj: Can't get Aloha to work at all..
Date: 95-05-05 23:41:57 EST
From: DinkRivers
Posted on: America Online
Am I the only one who can't get Aloha to work at all? All I get are
several different "sorry a problem has occurred.... " messages with codes ranging from 3 to -534567548373 (or something like that). I'm running a MP100 with a 2M RAM card. Sometimes it dials, sometimes it just gets the errors right after I hit connect. The best It's ever done is to get the modems connected.
It sounds like a great product once I get it working..:) Any clues anyone?
Dink
Subj: Re:Can't get Aloha to work at al
Date: 95-05-06 09:24:19 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
What other packages do you have installed? Are you sure there's enough heap space left with other packages for Aloha to run? You may want to take some steps to free up as much heap as possible and see if that helps.
You must have some sort of problem. Aloha 1.03 is working great for me !!! I'm even useing it Internationaly.
GP KART
Subj: Re:Can't get Aloha to work at al
Date: 95-05-07 16:55:20 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
<You must have some sort of problem. Aloha 1.03 is <working great for me !!! I'm even useing it <Internationaly.
<
<GP KART
Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subj: Error -48404
Date: 95-05-08 10:57:31 EST
From: EBvet
Posted on: America Online
What is the latest on Error -48404?
Thanks
Evan Blonder
ebvet
Subj: Re:Error -48404
Date: 95-05-08 15:47:56 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Evan,
Version 1.03 of Aloha fixes the -48404 error that some users were experiencing with version 1.0 of ALoha.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-09 22:54:27 EST
From: JMPro
Posted on: America Online
I don't know about anyone else out there, but I keep reading you can find it at the UIowa site and AMUG. Fat chance. UIowa has version 1.0 which does nothing but bomb my 110, and AMUG is so heavily overused that I can't get in to save my life.
And earlier messages that stated it was available on eWorld were incorrect, or their software search system doesn't work.
Where can I REALLY get a demo copy of Aloha? I want to try it out, but so far I'm hitting dead ends. Help!
--JMPro
Subj: PCMCIA Support
Date: 95-05-10 08:46:54 EST
From: ReamesSC
Posted on: America Online
I'm trying to find a list of supported PCMCIA cards on the Newton MessagePad 100. I know its out there because I've seen it before. I am now looking for the most recent list.
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-10 14:48:11 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
If you try to get on AMUG and are unsuccessful, there is generally an alternate address offered that will work - something with a 2 or 3 in it. I've gotten on several times in just this fashion, and have downloaded 1.03 from same just yesterday. Keep trying, and make sure that you have the utility to strip off all of that Internet hqx stuff - DeHQX-2.01 is available here on AOL - use the filesearch with DeHQX to find it.
T (of J and T)
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-10 14:49:02 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I will update the newton.uiowa.edu site later tonight (5/10/95), and upload the latest version to eWorld.
I will also email you a copy of Aloha that you can demo.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Transmission Errors
Date: 95-05-10 17:47:23 EST
From: Chartrand
Posted on: America Online
When using Aloha with my external 2400 baud modem (the one that apple was bundling with some of the MP110s), I seem to get a lot of transmission errors (wrong characters, missing characters). Anyone else having this problem? Is the problem with Aloha or the modem. I think the serial port is OK with NCK works. Any ideas on how to determine what the problem may be?
Subj: Aloha choking on internet addr.
Date: 95-05-10 18:04:46 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
Aloha seems to choke every time it encounters a particular internet address!
This person has sent mail twice, and the first time I got the message header with a text that said the mesaage was no longer available or not accessible to this account. This time, a few minutes ago, I got -48205 errors over a couple retries. Anyone seen anything like this?
This is a rather long address - 26 characters, and I notice the AOL mail box window cuts it off at 16 characters.
Larry
Subj: 48205 error
Date: 95-05-10 18:20:19 EST
From: AdamBravo
Posted on: America Online
Should I still be getting a 48205 error? I believe I've got the latest Aloha, and it happened while Aloha was 'decoding message'. Any ideas?
Bravo
Subj: Re:Transmission Errors
Date: 95-05-10 21:46:29 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Are they extra characters or are they really missing characters?
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Transmission Errors
Date: 95-05-10 22:47:22 EST
From: Chartrand
Posted on: America Online
I'll check more closely - but as I recall there are generally extra characters or garbled characters. I don't recall seeing missing characters.
My email isn't working right now on AOL for some strange reason. They are fixing it. But, perhaps you could email me some test message and I could email it back to you, and you can see what I mean (tomorrow - when my email works again - hopefully).
I'm betting it's the modem and intend to call apple soon, but thought I'd ask here first in case there was a known problem.
I'm running 1.03 at the moment. Thanks for any help - appreciate the response.
Subj: How can we get Aloha! Approved
Date: 95-05-11 18:36:48 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
How can we get AOL to approve Aloha? I wish the latest and greatest could be posted here on AOL. It is the right place for AOL connection. Are they testing it for quality assurance or since they did not make it it does not meet quality assurance? Will they still make their own version? Why are they so *top secret* about this? Why are we left in the dark on their plans?
Matthew 41
Subj: Re:How can we get Aloha! Approve
Date: 95-05-11 22:26:59 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
I'm hoping to convince AOL to let me post Aloha soon. They are not testing it--with rapid growth, Web browsers, new tools and features, there is more than Quality Assurance can keep up with now.
I don't see AOL doing its own version for Newton anytime soon.
I have seen a rumour that when AOL sold the software to Apple which they use with e-world that there was also an agreement that AOL would not support e-mail for the Newton so that e-world would get those customers.
Anyoneelse hear this?
Subj: Re:... a comment
Date: 95-05-12 17:16:22 EST
From: ZZTong
Posted on: America Online
>>>>I'd bet the market would bear $25 or $30 a lot better!<<<<
Well, if Aloha were $25 I would have bought a copy right away. Presently, I'm content to wait for others to play with it, and the bugs to be worked out.
ZZTong
Subj: Re:... a comment
Date: 95-05-12 17:27:39 EST
From: ZZTong
Posted on: America Online
>>>>Well, if Aloha were $25 I would have bought a copy right away. Presently, I'm content to wait for others to play with it, and the bugs to be worked out.<<<<
By the sounds of what's been accomplished, it shouldn't be long. Keep up the good work Hardy.
ZZTong
Subj: Re:... a comment
Date: 95-05-12 19:26:23 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Aloha!...no bugs now with 1.031! I paid the $45 with the discount! First shareware fee!
Matthew 41
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-12 21:29:28 EST
From: RickRipley
Posted on: America Online
Aloha 1.00 is available on eWorld - go to the Newton section under Newr Files.
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-12 21:32:43 EST
From: RickRipley
Posted on: America Online
Whoops - just read Hardy's post - so by this time, if the folks over at eWorld have had a chance Aloha 1.03 should be available in New Files in the Newton area.
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-12 22:05:40 EST
From: RickRipley
Posted on: America Online
Aloha 1.0.3 has not been posted on eWorld yet - just checked, 8:05 PDT, 5/12/95.
Subj: Error -48809
Date: 95-05-12 22:16:28 EST
From: EBvet
Posted on: America Online
Aloha 1.03 works fine until the Newton starts to gather the mail list. It blinks around the triangle once, and then it freezes. After a minute, I get an error message -48809. What is this?
Evan
ebvet
Thanks.
Subj: aloha and my 100
Date: 95-05-13 16:16:04 EST
From: Knowltie
Posted on: America Online
i can't get my 100 to connect to aol, what it the problem? it dials the number and i hear the annoying connection sound but it never actually connects....why?
Subj: aloha and my 100
Date: 95-05-13 16:18:56 EST
From: Knowltie
Posted on: America Online
it doesn't work on my 100. it dials the number and i hear the annoying connection sound but it never really connects....why?
Subj: Re:aloha and my 100
Date: 95-05-13 17:12:08 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
What version of Aloha!? It is not the software or the mp100 because Aloha worked on mine since the version 1.0. It has to be a setting on your MP or some other software conflict.
Matthew 41
Subj: Go into the Aloha Preferences...
Date: 95-05-13 22:49:07 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
...and make sure that the checkbox labeled "mode <= 2400 baud" is checked UNLESS you have a modem of a higher speed rating. Then try it again and see if it works.
T (of J and T, who was told this by none other than the author himself)
Subj: Re:Go into the Aloha Preferences
Date: 95-05-14 01:14:26 EST
From: Phun 1
Posted on: America Online
<<...and make sure that the checkbox labeled "mode <= 2400 baud" is checked UNLESS you have a modem of a higher speed rating. Then try it again and see if it works.>>
Oh? I was under the impression that the setting of this preference was dependent on the speed of the access number you're calling. I've used it with the "official" (2400) Newton external without checking the box (but using the high-speed access number) with no problem. I did, however, have to check it when calling the 2400 BPS number.
Hardy... what is that preference actually doing? I'm guessing it has to do with modem initialization... maybe disabling error correction?
Subj: Aloha+Modem Card on MP100?
Date: 95-05-14 11:06:13 EST
From: Men2Model
Posted on: America Online
is it Possible?
Aloha alone is 100K, right?
Jim
Subj: Re:Go into the Aloha Preferences
Date: 95-05-14 19:40:11 EST
From: RickRipley
Posted on: America Online
<<<...and make sure that the checkbox labeled "mode <= 2400 baud" is checked UNLESS you have a modem of a higher speed rating. Then try it again and see if it works.>>>
>>Oh? I was under the impression that the setting of this preference was dependent on the speed of the access number you're calling. I've used it with the "official" (2400) Newton external without checking the box (but using the high-speed access number) with no problem. I did, however, have to check it when calling the 2400 BPS number.<<
Phun 1 you are CORRECT. This preference only deals with the access number you call - if you are dialing a 2400 baud access number you should check this pref. if not don't bother!
Cheers -
RR
Subj: <=2400 Mode
Date: 95-05-14 20:14:32 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Rick was correct in tell Phun 1 he was corrent.
<<Phun 1 you are CORRECT. This preference only deals with the access number you call - if you are dialing a 2400 baud access number you should check this pref. if not don't bother!>>
2400 baud and lower numbers connect to a different machine that the faster baud numbers. So, checking the <=2400 mode tells Aloha which machine to connect to.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha+Modem Card on MP100?
Date: 95-05-14 20:17:44 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha + Modem Card on MP100 is possible.
Aloha.pkg is 105k, but it is stored compressed on the Newton so Aloha only takes up 65k.
So, if you have 100k free internally on your MP100 you should not have a problem connecting and downloading and uploading a few mail messages.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:aloha and my 100
Date: 95-05-14 20:19:44 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>i can't get my 100 to connect to aol, what it the problem? it dials the
>number and i hear the annoying connection sound but it never actually
>connects....why?
It sounds like you have <=2400 mode set incorrectly in the preferences. Try toggling it and connecting again.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Error -48809
Date: 95-05-14 20:21:43 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>After a minute, I get an error message -48809.
Did reinstalling the Aloha package fix you problem?
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Trouble in paradise...
Date: 95-05-14 23:08:06 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
About an hour ago, I connected to AOL with Aloha 1.03.01 without problem, receiving a long message from a AOL user. However, when I attempted to reconnect and mail the reply (I'm using it hot and heavy, Hardy, trying to get the review done), I was able to connect as before, running through all of the messages up to "Ignoring Headlines". At that point, the package appeared to hang (in as much as ANY Newton package gives the indication of hanging).
I then tried sending only, receiving only, a reset, all to no avail. Any ideas?
T (of J and T, who has finally figured out what your little newts look like on the icon display...)
Subj: Other screen names
Date: 95-05-15 09:55:54 EST
From: NinaNMAA
Posted on: America Online
Hello Hardy --
love the product, but a little bit concerned about the fact that I only seem to be able to use it with ONE screenname.... and one account.
Is there a reason for this?
I use different screennames at different times to help me sort out my mail, and it is very frustrating not to be able to access all of them.
I get an error message to the effect that "this password not valid for batch sessions."
Wassup with this?
Subj: Re:Trouble in paradise...
Date: 95-05-15 14:25:35 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I am having the same problem connecting to the 14.4 phone numbers. I'm looking into the problem that I'm having with the 14.4 phone number now.
I tried connecting to the local 2400 number and I didn't have any problems connecting.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Other screen names
Date: 95-05-15 14:31:03 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
The current reasoning of why you can only use one screen name is I implemented the basic stuff first.
I do plan on releasing a version that will allow you to use multiple screen names, but I currently do not have the time to work on implementing the multiple screen names. It is not a simple change...I need to do a little bit more programming to get it to work smoothly.
>I get an error message to the effect that "this
>password not valid for batch sessions."
Try setting your password again in Aloha. Maybe you have a typo for the screen name that you are using.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-16 11:23:42 EST
From: Jeffr82069
Posted on: America Online
I would like to demo aloha 1.03 can you please e-mail it to me. Thanks
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-16 22:48:31 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
In order to get a demo copy of Aloha, go to the Internet access area and select the FTP access option. Pay a visit to the newton.uiowa.edu site, and there she should be.
If Hardy had to mail a copy to everyone who wanted to try same, he'd be so poor that he'd have to move to Maine...
T (of J and T)
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-05-17 09:44:48 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>If Hardy had to mail a copy to everyone who wanted
>to try same, he'd be so poor that he'd have to move
>to Maine...
Actually, I already offered to email a copy to anyone who wants a copy. I usually mail it out once a day. (I don't get charged for each upload like I do on compuserve, do I? Just online time right.)
Of course learning who to FTP is probably in everyone's best interest and you can ftp Aloha from newton.uiowa.edu.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha (Hardy)
Date: 95-05-17 13:17:25 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
> I don't get charged for each upload like I do on
> compuserve, do I? Just online time right.
Right. Also, you can go to Mail You've Read, open one of your recent Aloha mailings, and use Forward to pass it along to someone else. As long as it's a recent mailing, the file will be forwarded, too.
Craig
Subj: Time...
Date: 95-05-17 16:11:47 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
...is money, no?
Seriously, the distribution of Aloha would be great if AOL would only bite the bullet and release it for distribution through the libraries....
T (of J and T)
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha (Hardy)
Date: 95-05-18 17:00:43 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Also, you can go to Mail You've Read, open one of
>your recent Aloha mailings, and use Forward to pass >it along to someone else. As long as it's a recent
>mailing, the file will be forwarded, too.
It takes me about 2-3 minutes for all of my "Mail You've Read" to be opened. It's almost faster for me just to send out a new message everytime. Is there a way for me to clear my Mail Already Read?
Hardy
Subj: I know this is the wrong folder
Date: 95-05-18 21:02:41 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
I would like to know what people think about BlackLabs Retriever+ for the Newton. Tell me what you think. How are the mail and conference features?
Matthew 41
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha (Hardy)
Date: 95-05-19 03:09:22 EST
From: DeBerg
Posted on: America Online
Hardy
When opening "mail you've read," as soon as you see the mail you want (in this case, your last Aloha mailing), hit apple-period. This will cause the list to stop right where it is. You can then open and forward the mail already listed on your screen without waiting for the entire list to scroll.
DeBerg
Subj: This same trick also works...
Date: 95-05-19 09:17:34 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
...on any other AOL window, by the way, including those ubiquitous postings cum ads for screen protectors...
T (of J and T)
Subj: Re:Aloha Q & A
Date: 95-05-20 12:35:34 EST
From: CottonCC
Posted on: America Online
Was housecleaning the other day and lost the password to my Aloha. Could you forward that me please?
Thanks much
CottonCC
Subj: I am new, help!!
Date: 95-05-21 09:04:41 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Anyway, I just ordered a MP100. Will I be able to run it w/o the enhancement pac? Or do I have to fork over the dough? Oh well, I think that I need graffity anyhow.
RPGOP
Subj: Re:I am new, help!!
Date: 95-05-21 09:28:25 EST
From: PDC Ben
Posted on: America Online
The MP100 will run just dandy without the Enhancement Pack...after all, it's been out for two years, while the pack's been out only for a coupla months ;-)
Ben Gottlieb (PDC Ben)
PDA Forum Consultant
Keyword PDA is how to find us!
Subj: Aloha 1.04
Date: 95-05-21 13:09:12 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
A new version of Aloha has been released.
Version 1.04 Changes:
* fixes rare -48205 error when decoding mail
* fixes rare "message is available" errors. You should get all your messages now.
* fixes -48402 error that was caused by not have the subject or to who field filled in the email address slip. If you do not the fields filled in then it will not send it.
* adds a Signature field
* gives you the option of turning off the "Sent via Aloha"...if you really want to.
* still untested, but I think it will fix the problem some people are having trying to dial out on phones that you need to dial a 9 first.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Modems??
Date: 95-05-21 13:56:42 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Can I use my externam Zoom 14.4 modem with my Newt 100 and aloha??
That is my question.
RPGOP
Subj: Aloha
Date: 95-05-21 19:32:58 EST
From: JR Little
Posted on: America Online
What does the line in the Aloha instructions below mean?
" * Works with any Newton package that supports text mail messages."
Does this mean I need additional software to run Aloha, or just that it supports mail features of other software packages? Can I use Aloha with a plain old MP100 with a 2MB memory card and external modem, or do I need additional software?
Thanks,
Jim
Subj: Multiple phone numbers
Date: 95-05-21 20:19:22 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
What I do for prefixes because at my home I need to dial *70 and my other work location I do not need to dial the prefix is the following.
1. Enter "*70,555-1234 @home" in the phone field and tap <>phone "Add to Popup".
2. Scrub out the first number and enter "555-1234 @office" in the phone field and tap <>phone "Add to Popup".
Now the phone popup has 2 choices you can toggle between them. You can add as many phone numbers as you want in this way.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-05-21 20:23:23 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>What does the line in the Aloha instructions below mean?
>
>" * Works with any Newton package that supports text mail messages."
Means that it supports mail features of other software packages. Aloha will let you email from Names, NotePad, PocketMoney, MPG, and so on.
>Can I use Aloha with a plain old MP100 with a 2MB memory card and external modem
Yes.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Modems??
Date: 95-05-21 20:24:42 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Can I use my externam Zoom 14.4 modem with my Newt 100 and aloha??
I don't know. My Hayes Accura 14.4 works fine with Aloha. Does anyone know?
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: ALOHA 1.04 - It's Great!
Date: 95-05-22 15:53:46 EST
From: DERMASTERF
Posted on: America Online
I just got Aloha 1.04 yesterday (thanks Hardy), and am pretty new with Newtons, but found it pretty easy to use. I've had absolutely no problems sending and receiving mail so far that's just plain old text, and so far no errors either (I'm using a 120). For anyone unsure of using the program, I feel it's pretty clear, and all I've done is read through the other questions and so forth. As I said, I'm pretty new with using Newtons, until now, I just played Solo and had a cool way of storing names. This really opens things up for me, as I almost sold my 120 at one point. I also had no problems with registering and emailing Hardy w/ my name card, things went very smoothly, thanks again Hardy for your work with Newtons and making them actually useful.
Subj: Aloha and AOL's 800 number?
Date: 95-05-23 17:10:06 EST
From: GryphonSW
Posted on: America Online
Hardy-
I'm on the verge of getting 1.04 (first I have to get an external modem). I tried 1.0 and noticed that it only works with SprintNet access. AOL's upcomming 800 number access would be a godsend for Aloha. The problem is that the number is AOLNet. Will 1.04 work? How much effort would it take to add AOLNet access?
If you say "yes", you'll get my money immediately.
Please send me a demo copy of Aloha 1.04. I'll send my shareware fee as soon as I try it on my MP100. Thanks in advance.
Subj: Re:Aloha and AOL's 800 number?
Date: 95-05-24 00:34:09 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I can't say yes to the AOLNet support yet. I will first have to try it and see what it will take. If there is enough interest I'm sure that Aloha will support AOLNet if it does not take a major re-write.
Hardy
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.04
Date: 95-05-24 12:37:01 EST
From: JR Little
Posted on: America Online
Where can I find Aloha 1.04? I FTP'd to AMUG and UMICH last night and they still had the version 1.03 in their Newton areas.
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.04
Date: 95-05-24 14:03:51 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I had tried uploading the new version to the FTP sites, but AMUG was busy and I was having problems with my connection with UIOWA. I put you on my list of people to get the next version. If you can hold out a day I'll be releasing version 1.1 which will let you use multiple accounts.
Hardy
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.04
Date: 95-05-24 14:04:27 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Sorry, I keep forgetting to add my full signature..
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.1
Date: 95-05-24 14:31:58 EST
From: ArBee127
Posted on: America Online
Please E-mail me a copy of Aloha 1.1. Thanks very much
Subj: Aloha 1.1 Released
Date: 95-05-24 16:43:40 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Version 1.1 of Aloha has been e-mailed to the registered users. I will be uploading it to ftp.amug.org and newton.uiowa.edu a.s.a.p.
Aloha version 1.1 supports multiple AOL accounts from one Newton.
Thank you,
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
(802) 863-5256
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.1 Released
Date: 95-05-25 19:05:14 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Aloha 1.1 is great. The only thing is that a small update needs to be done to the help. It says it still does not support multiple accounts.
Matthew 41@aol.com
"If only every Newton program would allow the use of Register, those authors would have my money like Ben and Hardy!"
We need more authors to support Register, it is better for users, and mabey better for authors.
Subj: Aloha and England
Date: 95-05-25 22:07:31 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
I will be traveling to England in 3 weeks and want to know about using AOL with only my newton and a modem in England. Will Aloha work? How about phone jacks and phone numbers?
Help!
Matthew41
Subj: Love Aloha
Date: 95-05-26 01:12:00 EST
From: DeBerg
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
Just wanted to say THANKS for Aloha. Ive been using 1.03 for a few weeks now. You just sent me 1.1 and I couldn't be happier. It really makes my Newton worth all the time/energy/money that I've put into it since I first bought an OMP 18 months ago!
DeBerg
Subj: Re:Aloha and England
Date: 95-05-26 01:27:42 EST
From: GP KART
Posted on: America Online
There are 4 numbers listed for UK
Duh!!!!!!
Subj: Re:Aloha and England
Date: 95-05-26 08:03:43 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Kind GP KART says...
<There are 4 numbers listed for UK
<Duh!!!!!!
4 numbers listed where? What kind of numbers? Sprintnet?
I want some concrete advice, not quick, witty responses.
Matthew41
Subj: Re:Aloha and England
Date: 95-05-26 11:29:47 EST
From: NinaNMAA
Posted on: America Online
Your phone jack will NOT work in England. They have different wiring specs. I found this out the hard way.
Subj: Re:Aloha 1.1 Released
Date: 95-05-26 16:20:43 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Aloha 1.1 is great. The only thing is that a small update needs to
>be done to the help. It says it still does not support multiple accounts.
Oops, I thought that I updated the help. I'll change it in the next release.
While trying to send out the new registration codes to everyone I discovered one more little bug. Aloha can't send more than 28 email messages out at a time. You can connect again to keep sending the messages and you won't lose any, but sending out a lot of messages this gets to be a bit of an hassle ;)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha and England
Date: 95-05-27 00:13:00 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
What are the wireing specs in England?
HELP!!! I WANT THIS TO WORK!!!
If anyone has personal experience in using a modem in England, I would appriciate the advice. I have constructed a wire per instructions in a powerbook book using half a phone wire and allegator clips to hook into any phone wire.
Help
Matthew 41
Subj: Aloha 1.1 - Even Better
Date: 95-05-27 09:05:17 EST
From: DERMASTERF
Posted on: America Online
I posted about how great 1.04 was, and since then (almost two weeks), I've gotten 1.1 from Hardy. What I wanted to say this time is thanks Hardy for being so quick on your help and getting out the program/registration to people. When people post problems or suggestions, you're on with an answer within a day or two, pretty impressive. I didn't have any problems w/1.04, and 1.1 just makes things better with the multiple accounts and such. Thanks again!
Subj: Re:Aloha and England
Date: 95-05-27 11:43:07 EST
From: DGoodman
Posted on: America Online
I don't know about the access nodes (whether they're SprintNet or not), but there is a company that has a ton of expertise on the adapter side of things: TeleAdapt
(voice) 408-370-5105
(fax) 408-370-5110
(email) 72623.706@compuserve.com
The company also has an office in England. They may know the access point issues as well.
Danny
Subj: Error 3
Date: 95-05-31 10:02:30 EST
From: SUSANNA
Posted on: America Online
I click "Connect" and I get an error 3. What is that? I have a MessagePad 100 with the Newton modem.
Subj: Re:Error 3
Date: 95-05-31 16:03:04 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Error 3 is a random type of error. It is probably related to memory problems. Make sure that Aloha has 30k+ of heap free before you launch it.
Do you have a MP running OS 1.05? Look at the bottom of the Extras->Prefs screen for your system number? Someone else reported this today and they were using 1.05.
Hardy
Subj: Aloha. . . where?
Date: 95-05-31 17:16:11 EST
From: HWhelply
Posted on: America Online
Newbie dumb question time. I thought I'd read that Aloha is shareware. I've looked in various places for it, done a search in the PDA section, etc.--I find references to it, but no software. Where can I get Aloha? Thanks.
Subj: Re:Aloha. . . where?
Date: 95-05-31 17:56:15 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
Go to the Internet section of AOL, then choose the FTP area. Search with the keywords "Iowa" and "Newton". Use the U of Iowa address that appears to connect to that site. As simple as configuring a new hard drive on a PC!!
T (of J and T)
Subj: system 1.05 and Aloha
Date: 95-06-01 15:41:38 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha doesn't seem to like Newton OS 1.05. The minimum system required for Aloha to run on is 1.3.
(OS 1.3 includes MP100, MP110, MP120, and Marco. OMPs are not supported)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
(Aloha, PocketMoney, MPG and many other fine Newton packages :)
Subj: Decompressing Aloha ???
Date: 95-06-01 22:22:31 EST
From: RAJASB
Posted on: America Online
Please help !!!!!
I have downloaded Aloha from one of the sites listed. I have a PC, but was unable to locate a *.zip version. I have downloaded *.hqx file. However, I have been unsuccessful at all attempts to decompress the package. AOL online suggested using Stuffins to unstuff however it does not work, the response I get is that it is not a *.sit file.
Please direct or send me a copy of Aloha in zip format through "attach" command in the E. Mail.
Thank you.
Subj: Re:Decompressing Aloha ???
Date: 95-06-01 22:46:16 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
A .hqx file is a binhex file--it is most likely the zip archive binhex'd so it can be sent as text.
Use keyword QUICKFINDER, search on BINHEX, and download one of the binhex utilities. It will decode the file down to what it really is--hopefully the zip archive which you can decompress and load.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Special Characters
Date: 95-06-04 19:53:05 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
Anybody know how special characters translate between a Newton and a PC?
For example, if on my PC I do <ALT>-248, I get a degree symbol -> Topic.
Or <ALT>-241 is the plus/minus symbol -> Add
Do these come through the same via Aloha, or do they get mapped to something completely different?
Thanx;
Lars
Subj: Limited "Options"...
Date: 95-06-04 22:17:26 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
The type of characters that you describe can be produced on a Message Pad (use the keyboard and tap "Shift" and "Option", then the "8" key to get the degree symbol, for example), but Aloha cannot transmit them as the text editor here on AOL isn't set up to deal with them. I tried to send messages with ellipsis (Option-; on the Newton system) and was constantly presented with error messages.
T (of J and T)
Subj: Aloha
Date: 95-06-06 12:05:58 EST
From: HBK228
Posted on: America Online
Would someone please send me "Aloha". Since AOL doesn't support it...or wants it on the net. I would appreciate any assistance...Thank you
Subj: EO?
Date: 95-06-06 14:11:30 EST
From: Tinkerb333
Posted on: America Online
Is there an EO? Any information on this machine? Screen better than a Newton?
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-06-06 14:13:39 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
Once again:
Go to the Internet section of AOL, then choose the FTP area. Search with the keywords "Iowa" and "Newton". Use the U of Iowa address that appears to connect to that site. Download the file from the library folders that appear once you are connected. As simple as configuring a new hard drive on a PC!!
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-06-06 14:21:12 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
You'll find Aloha on the net at AMUG (ftp.amug.org) and on UIOWA (newton.uiowa.edu). You can use keyword FTP to reach those areas.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: type 0 error
Date: 95-06-08 09:08:50 EST
From: Bookie24
Posted on: America Online
Aloah gets all the way up to "Connecting", which is after it's dialed and made alot of noise, and then it says, "sorry, there was an error. (0). what is this and how do I fix it?
Subj: Aloha AOL
Date: 95-06-08 22:56:29 EST
From: ScottK275
Posted on: America Online
I am interested in getting hooked up eith Aloha. Can someone head me in the right direction ?
Thanks !
Scott
Subj: Re:Aloha AOL
Date: 95-06-09 10:33:56 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Hardy Macia's AOL mail client, Aloha, has been released to AMUG (ftp.amug.org) and on UIOWA (newton.uiowa.edu). You can use keyword FTP to reach those areas.
I hope to soon provide members with shortcuts to those and other Internet sites right from PDA in the near future. ;)
C raig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Re:Special Characters
Date: 95-06-10 07:12:07 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Lars,
There is a table of symbol mappings to translate some of the special characters for Aloha. I only translate a couple option-8 the bullet on the mac becomes an asterisk and option-g the copyright symbol become a 'c'. All other special option/alt character combinations are ignored.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-06-10 16:10:45 EST
From: RDeneel
Posted on: America Online
I also have had trouble getting Aloha from ftp's. Would you please
e mail me a demo copy?
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-06-10 16:16:10 EST
From: RDeneel
Posted on: America Online
Dear Hardy,
My last message was intended for you. I'm new at this!
Also, I need the .zip version.
Subj: Cellular connection/Aloha
Date: 95-06-10 19:22:59 EST
From: Inabnit
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
Just picked up a Motorola 14.4 Cellular "Power" PCMCIA modem. I've only been able to get as far as "Ignoring headlines" before things lock up and just sit there. I'm using the modem enabler package and have the cellular modem chosen, but can't get Aloha to make it all the way. Any ideas? The wireline connection works with the modem and Aloha 1.1. I can also get into eWorld with the cellular setup just fine.
Carl D.
Subj: Re:Cellular connection/Aloha
Date: 95-06-10 23:18:18 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
So far debugging of the cellular connections for Aloha to AOL have been a bit difficult on my end because I do not have a cellular phone/modem. I will try to find the answer, but it might take a while.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Cellular connection/Aloha
Date: 95-06-11 00:46:55 EST
From: Inabnit
Posted on: America Online
Thanks, Hardy, I'll stay tuned.
Subj: Re:Cellular connection/Aloha
Date: 95-06-12 16:29:46 EST
From: WB5TKI
Posted on: America Online
FWIW, I have been able to successfully upload and download with that modem over a Motorola flip phone using Aloha. I only tried once, tho, just to see if it would work, so can't say anything about reliability of connection.
Doug
Subj: OS 1.05???
Date: 95-06-12 18:57:54 EST
From: Milka Kuh
Posted on: America Online
OK, I know I should have upgraded, but...
I have OS 1.05. Will any version of Aloha work for me. Oh. please! Thanx...(old Newt-user)
Subj: OS 1.05 oops
Date: 95-06-12 19:12:10 EST
From: Milka Kuh
Posted on: America Online
sorry, I have OS 1.11, but the saem question applies...thanx
Subj: Re:OS 1.05 oops
Date: 95-06-12 19:37:30 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
We're sorry to tell you this... Aloha will not work with 1.05 or 1.11 systems. You must have the 1.3 ROMs for Aloha.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Re:Special Characters
Date: 95-06-12 22:28:41 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
I sent email from the PC AOL client to my girlfriend who has an internet account, asking her to quote that line and sent some mail back so i could receive it via Aloha - Between Windows, AOL, the 'net gateway, and Aloha, we couldn't make heads or tails out of it!
She thought I was sending a line of smileys, and what I eventually saw on the Newton was:
=B0 =B1 ____=BP
It would be nice to have some of those special characters available, but I guess the AOL editor doesn't support some of them either. Too bad.
Lars
Subj: Re:Special Characters
Date: 95-06-13 15:06:45 EST
From: NinaNMAA
Posted on: America Online
Well, it does look like a line of smileys... But what was the original message???
Subj: Re:Special Characters
Date: 95-06-14 21:52:07 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
Something like:
Add All Topic _
From left to right: plus/minus, Micro, Degrees, and that underline should have been an 'O' with a diagonal line across it. Apparently the font AOL is using doesn't support that character, so it maps to an underscore.
I'm a Quality Control inspector at work, and I do machining and electronics in my home workshop, so I use these symbols a lot for expressing tolerances and abbreviating component values, etc. The 'O' with a line stands for 'Diameter' in machine shop terminology.
So I guess its really a case of BP. (Smiley with glasses and tongue hanging out.) You know, that reminds me of Dogbert from the Dilbert comic strip.... 8-{) [<- yours truly, with glasses and moustache]
Lars
Subj: Re:where can I get aloha 1.03
Date: 95-06-19 00:27:43 EST
From: RalphT4608
Posted on: America Online
I am trying to get a "demo" copy of Aloha as well. I checked the AMUG and UIOWA sites and, unless I'm blind, they're not there.
Where can I find Aloha v1.03.
Thanks,
Ralph Treat
Subj: Re:where can I get aloha 1.03
Date: 95-06-19 09:05:32 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
You can always e-mail Hardy Macia (at HardyMacia); he'll take care of you...
T (of J and T)
Subj: Re:where can I get aloha 1.03
Date: 95-06-19 09:47:05 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>I am trying to get a "demo" copy of Aloha as well. I
>checked the AMUG and UIOWA sites and, unless I'm
>blind, they're not there.
I'll double check, but the last time I checked they were at
The following is an interesting response from Hardy Macia regarding the possibility of adding a "keep as new" option to Aloha.
>>>Tony,
I'll look into keeping all messages marked as New for Aloha the next version of Aloha. ( ? 1.2 ? )
Hardy<<<
I note that this would be a very useful function for me, as I only check mail away from home once a day and prefer that all my mail is still "new" when I get home so that a flashsession will save it all to disk automatically.
Looking through all the posts in this folder, the same suggestion was offered in the past.
Hardy continues to improve on this software boon for the AOL's Newton users. Wonderful! I look forward to the new version!
Thanks Hardy,
Anthony M. Kassir, MD
Subj: Switched subjects
Date: 95-06-20 10:38:36 EST
From: JR Little
Posted on: America Online
Aloha (or my Newton) has occasionally swapped the subject lines between messages... Has anyone else noticed this? The one time that comes to mind, I received a particularly long "spam" advertising message with some other important mail. The subject line of the spam message appeared on the mail I wanted to keep, and my personal mail had the subject line of the advertising message.
Jim Little
Subj: Aloha & Cell-Modems?
Date: 95-06-27 17:29:32 EST
From: JayBrowder
Posted on: America Online
Does anyone have any experience using Aloha w/ cell-modems & Newton 120 (or 110)? I plan to buy a data capable Mot. flip phone and the Mot Cell modem to use on the road for fax & AOL messages. If the cell modem is capable of 14.4k, can the Newton handle this serial rate? By the way, I also am very happy with Aloha 1.1. Thanks Hardy!! (How about an Internet Pop mail client for the Newton??!!)
JayBrowder
Subj: Re:Aloha & Cell-Modems?
Date: 95-06-29 10:08:14 EST
From: DGoodman
Posted on: America Online
I use a Newton 120 with the Moto CELLect modem linked to a Moto MicroTAC Elite for those emergency email times. You'll have best success dialing into 2400 bps lines for your favorite service. It's pretty hard to maintain a 14400 connection via cellular.
Danny
Subj: Re: working w. hp plmtops
Date: 95-07-03 13:31:26 EST
From: MJGESQUIRE
Posted on: America Online
I read your article: "Mac user's guide to working with HP Palmtops", but now I'm reconsidering my purchase plans.
I thought I was going to have to resign myself to buying a HP because IT linked to AOL. IT also had a longer battery life, smaller size, a keyboard, and a cross of all the pluses from the Wizard to the Magic Link.
Now Aloha tilts the scale again. I thought that resigning myself to an HP wasn't so bad because I could learn and access Dos material on the road (the predominant platform in my circles), however, just reading the literature to get up to speed has me wishing for the good ole mac interface--I think I'd rather just wait for a mac program for PDA's that reads or runs Dos stuff like a mac.
Anyhow, if Aloha will let me send email to a newton then I could access files from my desktop on the road as well as messages that I or friends send.
I've considered Zaurus, HP 200Lx, Magic Link and Newton, even Marco. I'm so undecided; everyone's opinion is welcome. I'd much rather stick with an Apple product because of integration and familiarity, but it seems the competition has arguably been out front. Whoever invented Aloha gets a kudo.
mike
Subj: Re: working w. hp plmtops
Date: 95-07-03 20:47:07 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Mike,
Since this folder is for Aloha support, I'm copying your post to the PDA General Message Board's "Which PDA/Palmtop Should I Buy" and responding there.
Aloha is a great program, and Hardy definitely deserves the kudos for it.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Aloha is Sweet
Date: 95-07-04 06:27:16 EST
From: CKHolter
Posted on: America Online
Just wanted to get my two cents in in case anybody's on the fence out there. I've had Aloha registered and running for over a week now, and boy, what a great piece of software.
I'd been ready to dump my Newton altogether, but the aquisition of Aloha turns it into a considerably more useful device for me.
By the way, I have no scientific proof of this, but it sure seems like Aloha gets on and gets off AOL faster than the Mac AOL 2.5.1 package.
Love that Aloha.
Subj: Finding "@"
Date: 95-07-04 09:00:31 EST
From: CKHolter
Posted on: America Online
I have a question that's peripherally related to using Aloha.
I've been creating Name Cards for some Internet sites (agora@mail.w3.org, ftpmail@census.gov, etc.). When I'm preparing an outgoing message, I try and do a "Find" in Names for the "@" symbol, but I always get, "Not found in Names" back - even though I have probably half a dozen cards which contain the "@" character.
Do you happen to know if this failure to find the "@" symbol is a Newton bug, or if the system is designed to search only for "normal" letters?
I note that when I'm in Notes and I do a "Find" for "@", I get the usual "Compiling list of found items" message, and then the usual overview, with "Notes, 2 items" in boldface at the top of the overview. However, that's all. The items are not listed.
Does anybody have the full scoop on this? Thanks in advance for any replies.
CKHolter@aol.com
Subj: Re:Aloha is Sweet
Date: 95-07-04 09:21:13 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
> By the way, I have no scientific proof of this,
> but it sure seems like Aloha gets on and gets off
> AOL faster than the Mac AOL 2.5.1 package.
Since Aloha ignores any database and art updates, it is possible that it would be faster on occasion.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Re:Finding "@"
Date: 95-07-05 11:04:19 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
The notes will not find "@" in the middle of words. So if you have "hardy@catamount.com" in the Notes or Names it will not find it. Find only works with words that start like "abc..." It does not look inside of words for the strings. But, Newton does seem to break words on periods so you could search for all "com" assuming a majority of email adresses end in .com or .edu
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
(makers of Aloha, PocketMoney, MPG and other programs for the Newton)
Subj: Aloha and CC:mail
Date: 95-07-05 13:49:16 EST
From: Obywan
Posted on: America Online
I don't know how many users have cc:mail by Lotus but I have figured out how to have it forward mail to my AOL account which I can then access with Aloha - anyone who wants specifics can email me.
Subj: Re:Aloha is Sweet
Date: 95-07-05 16:45:02 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
In the amount of time it takes AOL 2.0 to load, then dial the phone, then wait for the menus to appear, I can uncase the Newton, swap out the Flashcard for the Modem, log in and get the mail, and be happily writing the response....
And I only have a 2400 Baud Modm in the Newton, whereas the PC allegedly runs at 14.4K!
Lars
Subj: Re:Aloha and CC:mail
Date: 95-07-05 16:49:26 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
How about posting your cc:Mail to AOL info here, Obywan--we can then add it to the tips center.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Re:Aloha and CC:mail
Date: 95-07-05 17:42:47 EST
From: Obywan
Posted on: America Online
Okay Craig - didn't want to jam the newsgroup with a lot of information that may only apply to a few people. This is how I have been able to forward my company cc:mail to AOL and then download it via Aloha.
I have set this up with cc:mail 2.0. The only prerequisite is that your e-mail must be configured so you can send e-mail through the internet. Some systems may just limit you to sending through your own network so this obviously wouldn't work. This is something your cc:mail administrator can help with.
First - you have to prepare a message which defines your AOL address - for example, I created a message with the subject "Forward to AOL" with my AOL address - Obywan@aol.com. You then save that message as a DRAFT message. Go to the message menu - select "save draft".
Then - go to the rules list (ctrl+L) and create a new rule. I have it set to run "when receiving new messages in in-box" - I have NOT defined any conditions - although you can specify that only messages with certain subjects, or from certain people will be affected. The action - "forward current message using addresses from draft message 'Forward to AOL'"
That is all there is to it. I had to create the draft message because our system would not accept a specific internet address any other way. So I used the draft to define my AOL address.
One important thing - you must have your cc:mail running for this to work. I used it over this last weekend (July 4th) and received several messages with no problem - but I did have to leave my work computer on with cc:mail running. Any messages you receive will be forwarded - and a copy will remain on your system although it will be marked as read. Also, at least on our system, you do get a lot of extra info on the messages in the form of routing information etc. in headers and footers. No big deal however. Heck, I even got receipts from our system after a message was sent to AOL! This makes aloha indispensible to me - Hardy the check is in the mail!! :)
Hope this is helpful to some.
Courage!
Obywan
Subj: In/Out box utility
Date: 95-07-05 18:26:58 EST
From: RStark
Posted on: America Online
Has anyone made a utility that lets text that has been copied to the top of the Newton to be displayed in the in/out box?
Thanks
Subj: It worked in the UK, not in WI
Date: 95-07-08 13:17:42 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
I used my Newton with Aloha in England a few weeks ago. Now that I am at my Boy Scout Camp job in Wisconsin, it does not work. It hangs on Connecting... . What could be the problem? I tried touch tone and pluse, <=2400 on and off, and other problem solving ideas. What should I do?
Matthew41
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-07-08 22:56:29 EST
From: MedMac
Posted on: America Online
Does aloha handle multiple aliases after registering?
Read somewhere that the reg # is based on user name?
MedMac
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-07-09 12:02:04 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Aloha has been changed to allow multiple screen names--the registration is now based on your real name.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Re:It worked in the UK, not in W
Date: 95-07-10 09:22:00 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Matthew,
I would double check the phone number that you are trying to connect to. Make sure it is a valid SprintNet number. If you want you can email me the phone number and I'll try connecting to it and let you know the results.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-07-10 09:24:32 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Does aloha handle multiple aliases after registering?
You need version 1.1 of Aloha to use multiple aliases and accounts with Aloha. This option is available to you in 1.1 even before you register.
>Read somewhere that the reg # is based on user name?
It is based on your Newton's name. (extras->prefs->personal->name)
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
(Aloha, PocketMoney, MPG, NameDropper, TimeLock, NoteScroller and more)
Subj: more connect messages?
Date: 95-07-11 17:22:49 EST
From: JimAinPA
Posted on: America Online
I often get "unable to connect " message and thought something was wrong with my modem or phone cord, then when I turned the modem volume on, I realized that the line either wasn't picking up or was busy. As I much prefer keeping the modem volume off, can the connect messages be more specific? Like a "no answer" or "busy" message in addition to the "check modem connection" message?
Subj: Re:It worked in the UK, not in W
Date: 95-07-11 21:30:04 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
I will double check the number, but I am now using a desktop machine on the same line.
Matthew41
Subj: Odd mail problem
Date: 95-07-11 22:01:53 EST
From: LarsofMars
Posted on: America Online
I don't think this is a problem with Aloha, more likely a quirk in the Newtonmail system:
I got a mailing off internet the other day, and Aloha split it in 2 segments. It was very hard to read in the mail editor, so I copied the text to Notes. I got a message that said the note was too long and a new note had been created. The tail end of the second segment vaporised.
Anyone else seen something like this?
Thanx;
Larry
Subj: Re:more connect messages?
Date: 95-07-12 08:03:08 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Like a "no answer" or "busy" message in addition to
>the "check modem connection" message?
I'll check into it. I think, I can give this kind of feedback, but I just have to figure out how.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:more connect messages?
Date: 95-07-12 20:42:06 EST
From: Men2Model
Posted on: America Online
Hardy, thanks!
Getting those "check your modem or connection" messages were scaring me.. thought my modem was not working! Also, do you know, on the Apple external 2400 modem, what does the battery indicator light tell me?It hasn't come on yet. Will it only come on when the batteries are low?
Subj: Modem Battery Idicator Light
Date: 95-07-12 21:09:38 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
The battery indicator light tells you when your modem battery is getting low.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Invalid Account
Date: 95-07-18 11:03:40 EST
From: Zanaberry
Posted on: America Online
I'm trying to use Aloha, I get as far as "checking password" when I get this error message:
(i)Aloha 1.1
Invalid account. For help,
call Customer Relations at
1-800-827-6364
I know my screen name and password are correct. I even called and got a new password, which works on my desktop mac. I've tried re-writing my name and password, but it didn't help.
I'm using Aloha 1.1 on a Newton MP100 and a GV Teleport Platinum (I've also tried a Hayes Optima 96, with the same results).
The only other software on my newton is: Modem enabler 1.1, and the In Box Expander.
Any Ideas?
Mike
Subj: Re:Invalid Account
Date: 95-07-18 13:49:07 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Are you SURE you don't have any "typos" entered on your Newt? An extra space or incorrect case (passwords ARE case sensitive, screen names are not) in your password on the Newt will prevent you from signing on.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: Re:Invalid Account
Date: 95-07-18 15:07:38 EST
From: Zanaberry
Posted on: America Online
I've re-written the name and password several times to be sure there weren't any other characters in there. I know I have the case right since I just entered a new password on my desktop mac, and it works fine.
Mike
Subj: Re:Invalid Account
Date: 95-07-18 15:44:27 EST
From: Zanaberry
Posted on: America Online
OK I've got it to work. Must have been a typo in the account name.
In an attempt to get Aloha to work I removed all the other software. This didn't work so I tried to restore it but ran into a problem which force me to reload my packages. When I entered the preferences in Aloha and tried to sign on it worked.
When I was having the problem, Aloha wouldn't let me try to sign on using just my screen name "zanaberry" unless I added "@aol.com". Aloha would give me an error message that said my name or password was blank.
I guess I had a blank space in front of my account name that didn't erase. Thanks for the help.
Mike
Subj: Compuserve SWREG ID for Aloha
Date: 95-07-19 12:57:50 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
A few people have requested that I create a Compuserve SWREG ID for Aloha because they need to charge Aloha to their corporate account.
The SWREG ID for Aloha is 6642.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: new NTK?
Date: 95-07-22 01:01:09 EST
From: Boss111
Posted on: America Online
To the author:
Will the new NTK allow for faster internet header processing as was previously thought? Have you had a chance to profile Aloha, and does it look like it will benefit from the new NTK options?
Thanks.
-David
Subj: Error -48809 has reappeared
Date: 95-07-22 19:49:01 EST
From: HartUvGold
Posted on: America Online
I've been running Aloha 1.1 with no problems for two days, but I've started getting -48809 errors. I'm using a 120/2MB with 2MB flash card. Installed packages are Aloha 1.1, the Grafitti demo, and Notion.
I've reinstalled Aloha once, but still get the error. I may try removing the flash card, and installing internally again, but I don't think this will make much difference.
Any one have an idea I should try? Thanks for your help!
Subj: Error -48809, oh my!
Date: 95-07-22 20:17:34 EST
From: HartUvGold
Posted on: America Online
Okay, I removed my Apple Newton 2MB flash memory card, and Aloha 1.1 started working again. Put the card back in (power off) and it stops again wiht error
-48809. External Apple modem (one that came with 120), 1.3 ROM.
Screen freezes when top and left bottom triangle has bubbles, and right bottom triangle has flying letter. Then the "Sorry, a problme has occured (-48809) appears.
Subj: -48809 (part 3, book 2, etc etc)
Date: 95-07-22 21:17:54 EST
From: HartUvGold
Posted on: America Online
Sorry to eat up bandwidth on three messages. I removed the 2MB card, and Aloha 1.1 works. Doesn't when the card is in. Now I'm really confused
Subj: Re:-48809 (part 3, book 2, etc e
Date: 95-07-22 22:20:14 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
The -48809 error is an "Undefined Method" error--could be you have a soup from some other trashed package, or part of Aloha in two places. You might find the problem with a soup utility. Or, if you don't have any valuable data on the card, try reformatting it and see if Aloha works with the card. I use a 120/2meg with a card w/o any problem.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Take the Shortcut - Keyword: PDA)
Subj: -48809 :-)
Date: 95-07-23 14:21:16 EST
From: HartUvGold
Posted on: America Online
Okay, I got the soup utility, erased the Card, then removed the Aloha package and it's other parts (Register and InBox) and cleared those soups too.
Also found some old soups and deleted them.
Reinstalled Aloha, and it promptly informed me that my trial period is over (heh heh heh <sigh>) Okay, I'll
go register, and then perhaps I'll get this working....
Subj: Aloha support for AOLNet?
Date: 95-07-23 16:55:34 EST
From: GryphonSW
Posted on: America Online
For trade shows and traveling, accessing AOL mail using the 800 AOLNet access number would be VERY helpful. Have you looked in to supporting the AOLNet login sequence? If so, will you support AOLNet in an upcomming version of Aloha?
I done a little bit of compiling in Aloha, but so far the trade off of speed versus heap usage has not been good. So, I'm not even using a compilied version of Aloha yet.
I'm also busy working on some other projects so I haven't been able to spend a lot of time looking into the compiling issue in Aloha.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha support for AOLNet?
Date: 95-07-23 20:44:04 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Version 2.0 of Aloha will support AOLNet logins. I basically have to re-write part of the code that determines how you want to connect. I want to support SprintNet, AOLNet, and the Tymnet (for the Canadian users).
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Error -48809, oh my!
Date: 95-07-23 20:50:36 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Yes, you found a bug and the only known solution for it. There have been about 4 people so far who have reported this error, but I've been unable to track it down over the conversations that I've had with the other users. The only solution seems to be install Aloha internally.
If someone can part with their Newton for 3 days I can try to debug this problem. You will need to FedEx your Newton to me, I'll try to find the problem, and I'll FedEx it back to you. I'll waive the registration fee for the person that can send a Newton that is experiencing this problem.
I'm using a MP120 with Aloha installed on the 2Meg card and I haven't had any problems.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Error -48809, oh my!
Date: 95-07-23 21:08:29 EST
From: HartUvGold
Posted on: America Online
Hmmm, I have to say that while I'd like to get this fixed, I can't part with my little Newt. Umm, I have to say that the "eval timeout" surprised me. I only loaded the package on Thursday night, and I think it said seven days had passed. Could I still be looking at a soup corruption problem? Perhaps there's an internal soup that I need to nuke?
Subj: 48809
Date: 95-07-23 21:31:33 EST
From: HartUvGold
Posted on: America Online
Well, don't want to leave you in the lurch. If you give me a shopping list of things to check, I'll email back the results.
Subj: Re:Aloha support for AOLNet?
Date: 95-07-24 22:10:19 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
Any date on 2.0?
Matthew41
Subj: Re:Aloha support for AOLNet?
Date: 95-07-29 07:28:35 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Any date on 2.0?
Before November is as close as I'm willing to guess right now.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: 48807 on decoding mail
Date: 95-08-04 08:59:00 EST
From: AndrewL723
Posted on: America Online
Anyone know what this error is about and how to correct it?
Andrew.
Subj: Boston...-48807 on decoding mail
Date: 95-08-05 14:10:55 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
If anyone is getting the -48807 error and will be in Boston next week please email me so I can do some on the spot debugging. So far, I've been unable to reproduce this error which makes fixing it very hard.
Hardy
(HardyMacia@aol.com)
Subj: Re:Boston...-48807 on decoding m
Date: 95-08-15 00:33:23 EST
From: RDeneel
Posted on: America Online
Dear Hardy,
This time I wrote down the error message and it is -48807. When I wrote you personally I thought it was from internet mail since that is all I had tested Aloha on since I registered it.
Now I've tried to get your aol response to my message plus some internet mail via Aloha. I've tried at least 10 times with my Motorola Power PCMCIA card and 5 times with the Apple Modem and I always get the -48807 error as soon as Aloha starts to download the first message.
The strange thing is that Aloha 1.1 worked fine on both modems before I registered! I did a lot of experimenting with shareware between the success and failure, some I've kept/registered, most I erased.
Any luck with the error problem when you were in Boston?
Regards,
RDeneel
Subj: Re:Aloha Q & A
Date: 95-08-16 16:56:29 EST
From: LifeFrce
Posted on: America Online
I downloaded aloha-11.hqx from the Newton Archive at the U of Iowa on the Internet..... I don't know how to expand the .hqx format to a useable form for my Newton.... HELP!!....
Subj: .hqx
Date: 95-08-16 19:00:40 EST
From: J and T
Posted on: America Online
Go to the Macintosh software library search screen and search on hqx. You'll find a number of utilities that will handle the tranformation.
T (of J and T)
Subj: Re:.hqx
Date: 95-08-16 21:51:03 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Look in the PDA Forum's Quick Tips Center, the "Uploading Downloading" section, and read Tip #008 on decoding the hqx file.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Win up to 10 hrs in the Dream PDA Contest! Keyword PDA)
Subj: Re:Boston...-48807 on decoding m
Date: 95-08-17 07:39:06 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
It sounds like the -48807 is related to people registering Aloha. It doesn't sound right, but I'll check into it.
No luck in Boston with anyone having the problem.
Hardy
Subj: 48402 error
Date: 95-08-17 21:36:04 EST
From: Timhale
Posted on: America Online
Today when I logged on using Aloha 1.1 I got the error 48402. This message came up while sending the second of two pieces of mail in the out-box. I tried deleting the message from the out-box and then mailing it again and it still didn't work, although other mail would still be sent. When set to receive only I had no problem downloading my mail. I also tried re-addressing the mail to another and it still wouldn't send it. Tonight I copied the mail out of the notepad and pasted it into a AOL letter so that I could finally send it. Any ideas?
Tim
Subj: Re:48402 error
Date: 95-08-18 22:37:24 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Tim,
There might be a character in the text portion of the email messsage that is causing Aloha to choke. If you enter characters like curly quotes or bullets (option-8) this will cause Aloha to choke.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Aloha is the greatest
Date: 95-08-29 09:12:05 EST
From: JRMolloy
Posted on: America Online
I think that Aloha should be built into the Newton. I have found it easier to use than Newton Mail which caused me nothing but problems by running out of memory, losing mail and just being generally hateful. Congratualations Hardy, keep the products rolling.
John Molloy
Subj: Aloha expiration flaw
Date: 95-09-01 22:35:35 EST
From: Redeicieli
Posted on: America Online
I got Aloha from the AMUG CD, installed it on my MP120, and after 48 hours - the first time I tried to use it, I get the message that my seven days are up. Very impressive. I like shareware because it gives me the chance to try before I buy, and buy I do, when I find something worth keeping. When I saw how much it costs ( for shareware ) I assumed it would be professional quality ( unlike some ) . Was I wrong?
Subj: Aloha wants & problems
Date: 95-09-02 07:31:48 EST
From: Gtelabs
Posted on: America Online
I've been trying out Aloha 1.1 for the last few days. I like it, but have some comments...
1) sometimes the first letter is cut out of email from AOL people.
2) sometimes it just hangs during connections
3) I'd like both tymenet and AOLnet support :)
4) I'd like it to check multiple AOL accounts in a single session (I've got 3, don't ask!)
5) I'd like it to support binary (native newton) mail - lunamail does this, and I think it would be usful.
Overall, a great product, works as advertised!
- john schettino
Subj: Re:Aloha expiration flaw
Date: 95-09-02 08:04:36 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Try downloading the latest version of Aloha from newton.uiowa.edu--you should get your full week. You also should contact AMUG about your problem (no one else has mentioned that difficulty here).
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: Aloha and Quickies not compatiab
Date: 95-09-02 13:33:20 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
With some help from an affected user, I've tracked down the -48807 problem that some of you have been having downloading email with Aloha.
The error is caused by an incompatibility with Quickies. I haven't tried narrowing down the problem any further. One solution would be to delete Quickies from your Newton, but I think you might be able to tell Quickies to not clean up Aloha and the inbox and outbox when Quickies is cleaning up the heap.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha wants & problems
Date: 95-09-02 13:43:15 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> 1) sometimes the first letter is cut out of email from AOL people.
This happens if you have a special account (ie. PDC Ben or PDA Craig types of accounts). For most users this is not a problem.
> 2) sometimes it just hangs during connections
While trying to connect or in the middle of sending and receiving mail?
> 3) I'd like both tymenet and AOLnet support :)
I'm planning on adding this support to version 2.0.
> 4) I'd like it to check multiple AOL accounts in a single
>session (I've got 3, don't ask!)
Can't be done on one phone call. I've been asked many times to move the phone and account prefs to the main screen so you have better access to them and I will do this in version 1.2 as soon as I have a chance.
> 5) I'd like it to support binary (native newton) mail-
>lunamail does this, and I think it would be usful.
I'm looking into this for version 2.0, but it probably will not be implemented until version 3.0.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha wants & problems
Date: 95-09-03 07:37:42 EST
From: PDT Aide
Posted on: America Online
> 2) sometimes it just hangs during connections
>While trying to connect or in the middle of sending and receiving mail?
While connecting, it will sometimes (not very often) get hug up in the connecting... state. In general, it has been *excellent* for send/receive email!
I'm glad you're going to add tymenet/aolnet support. I'm willing to help out with the native newton data transport section :)
Two more clarifications/wants. For those of us with multiple account names, would it be possible to some how indicate a set of names to check (even if you have to dial the phone multiple times :) ) and to indicate which name should be used to send email under.
Also, AOL or Sprint supports the "find local number" option, which calls an 800 number to fetch a list of local access numbers. Boy would I like that.
Thanks, Hardy, for the cool program and great support. If there is any way I can help let me know.
- john schettino
Subj: Downloading Aloha
Date: 95-09-03 14:47:49 EST
From: KHATCH
Posted on: America Online
I'm an MP100 user. I've downloaded the Aloha package from the newton.uiowa.edu site, expanded it using Unstuffit for Windows, and tried to load the package onto my Newton via the Windows NCK. I've tried several times, and each time the transfer starts, but is then quickly interrupted - giving me a very abrupt error message. I've installed several other packages onto my Newton via the Windows NCK...and without any problems. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this isn't working for me?
Khatch@aol.com
Subj: Re:Downloading Aloha
Date: 95-09-03 16:03:29 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Are you sure you had the "Convert to Windows" option turned off in the Windows unstuffer? If you have that option checked, it can corrupt files (so I'm told).
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: Re:Aloha wants & problems
Date: 95-09-03 20:43:37 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> While connecting, it will sometimes (not very often) get hug up in the
> connecting... state. In general, it has been *excellent* for
> send/receive email!
That is because Aloha doesn't handle that case yet. I've been trying to figure it out, but I'm never at the right place at the right time.
> Two more clarifications/wants. For those of us with multiple account
> names, would it be possible to some how indicate a set of names to check
> (even if you have to dial the phone multiple times :) ) and to indicate
> which name should be used to send email under.
That's tough to do because I'm using NewtonMail to handle the message creation and editing. So, I don't have much control over who the message is sent by. I'm not sure if 2.0 will handle this yet either, but I'll look into it.
> Also, AOL or Sprint supports the "find local number" option, which calls
> an 800 number to fetch a list of local access numbers.
I included the voice 800 number to call for local numbers in the Aloha online help. Look at Aloha-> i ->help->prefs->phone. Tap on the number and the call slip will popup.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha wants & problems
Date: 95-09-04 16:08:08 EST
From: PDT Aide
Posted on: America Online
I asked to be able to indicate who to send the mail as...
<<That's tough to do because I'm using NewtonMail to handle the message creation and editing. So, I don't have much control over who the message is sent by. I'm not sure if 2.0 will handle this yet either, but I'll look into it.>>
One thought would be to "hide" all the out box soup entries that don't correspond to the current connect-ee when connecting. Maybe you could add a small floater for email creation so that we can designate/select the AOL userid to send the email as. If we do select one, you create an extra slot for the entry with the user tag, if we dont it gets sent on the first connect (like it does now)
<<I included the voice 800 number to call for local numbers in the Aloha online help. Look at Aloha-> i ->help->prefs->phone. Tap on the number and the call slip will popup.>>
Duh. Sorry! I never read the on-line docs.
Folks, this last weekend has been a trial-by-fire of Aloha for me, on the road in several locations, and a PDA assitant at the same time :). I really like this thing, and (even at 2400 baud) it works like a champ. Hardy gets his shareware payment :)
- john schettino
Subj: Re:Aloha expiration flaw
Date: 95-09-05 20:39:05 EST
From: HartUvGold
Posted on: America Online
I had the same problem. Aloha downloaded from AOL worked for only 48 hours, and when I deleted it and reloaded from the AMUG, it was still timed out. (must have missed a soup or two).
The package is worth while though!
Subj: Re:Aloha wants & problems
Date: 95-09-12 16:45:30 EST
From: Jswu
Posted on: America Online
How about the ability to get stock quote portfolios?
When will 2.0 be out?
Subj: Re:Aloha wants & problems
Date: 95-09-12 20:10:24 EST
From: TLBahensky
Posted on: America Online
I agree the ability to get stock quotes would be a very nice feature. This would be ideal for me in my situation.
TLBahensky
Subj: Stock Quotes
Date: 95-09-13 21:26:04 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
I think I've mentioned getting Aloha to do stock quotes will be an option at some future point. Stock quotes might not make it into 2.0, but I'll try to get it into the version after 2.0.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: I want Aloha!
Date: 95-09-13 23:07:10 EST
From: JAbeleda
Posted on: America Online
Where do I download Aloha?!!!
Subj: Re:I want Aloha!
Date: 95-09-14 07:40:18 EST
From: PDT Aide
Posted on: America Online
Aloha is not available in the AOL libs, but can be downloaded off of the internet:
You can find the latest version of Aloha at AMUG (ftp.amug.org) and on UIOWA (newton.uiowa.edu). You can use keyword FTP to reach those areas.
I recently loaded the Aloha package into my Newton 120 and when I launched it the screen came up that had the "send mail" and "receive mail" check off boxes in it but nothing happend for about 30 seconds afterward. So, I tried to close it and discovered that the Newton was locked up. I then tried to reset but now all I get is a completely dark screen which won't turn off except by removing the batteries. The startup screen doesn't appear.
I've a feeling that something truly awful has happend to my MP. Does anyone have any suggestions?
-Kelly
Subj: Kind of on the topic....
Date: 95-09-17 17:28:22 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Can one export newton mail documements to AOL on your mac (or PC, but PC doesn't mean much to me) via NCK? If not, does aloha do this, or can you just send them with the Newton?
RPGOP
Ryan
Subj: Re:Crash
Date: 95-09-18 10:24:35 EST
From: Hufn
Posted on: America Online
If the screen is dark, did you accidentally adjust the contrast? If so, try that first. Next, you could try a cold boot. Press and hold the Reset button, while doing that press and release the power switch. When the screen comes up and says do you want to delete everything TAP NO. That should correct most problems. After that a call to 1800 SOS-APPL might be in order.
hufn
Subj: Ignoring Headlines crash
Date: 95-09-22 19:01:05 EST
From: JR Little
Posted on: America Online
Help!
The past two days, when I've tried to use my (registered) Aloha to get my email, it freezes during the "Ignoring Headlines" phase of login. I've tried a clean reload of Aloha and reentering my registration number to no avail. Did AOL go and change their login protocol and make it Aloha un-friendly??
JRLittle
Subj: Re:Crash
Date: 95-09-22 21:48:06 EST
From: Twenty112
Posted on: America Online
Thanks for the reset advice. I tried all that to no avail. Consequently, my Newton is in the process of being Fed-Ex'd back to the factory for a fix. Now I'm very leery of trying to use Aloha again. Am I the only one to experience this kind of crash with Aloha?
-Kelly
Subj: Re:Crash
Date: 95-09-23 14:12:40 EST
From: Matthew 41
Posted on: America Online
I find it hard to believe that Aloha caused a crash that sent the unit back to apple.
Matthew Johnson
Subj: Re:Crash
Date: 95-09-24 08:14:40 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
It is impossible for software to damage a newton. If you have a backup, the complete reset described in the tips section should clear the newton (erasing all memory, hence the need for the backup) and correct whatever problem you might be having. Unless your machine just happened to die of natural causes while using Aloha :)
- john schettino
Subj: WTB: Registered Aloha
Date: 95-09-24 10:37:20 EST
From: PhatZombie
Posted on: America Online
I cant afford 50 bucks, so if anyone out there wants to get rid of their aloha copy, and can sell it cheaper, email me!
Subj: Wrongo, living dead breath...
Date: 95-09-24 21:49:43 EST
From: Sensha
Posted on: America Online
The problem with your approach (which is certainly legal and above board) is that the "copy protection" scheme used by Hardy and others relies on the interaction between your user's name on the Newton device and a code that they send you upon receipt of your shareware fee. Unless you want to rename your Newton device to something like Philo T. Farnsworth, using someone else's copy, even if bought and paid for, just won't work...
PDC Sensha
Subj: Re:WTB: Registered Aloha
Date: 95-09-25 17:23:39 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Or, a less "sensha-sational" approach is to read the "readme" file. There you will find that Hardy gives a $5 discount for using RegisterIt and a Credit Card, and a $5 discount if you email him your name card, so it's only $39. Really, you can afford $39.
- john schettino
Subj: Re:WTB: Registered Aloha
Date: 95-09-25 19:11:42 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Actually John, you received an additional $5 discount for being a PDC.
The discounts are:
- $5.00 off if you email your name card to me
- $5.00 off if you register another of my program
- 20% discount if you and your spouse register Aloha
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Kind of on the topic....
Date: 95-09-25 19:14:01 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Ryan,
The documents that you are referring to are the files that eWorld downloads a NewtonMail attachment?
Then the answer is you can't export newton mail documents to AOL or Aloha.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Ignoring Headlines crash
Date: 95-09-25 19:17:46 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
JRLittle,
I don't think AOL has changed their message format to keep Aloha away. Aloha hanging on the ignoring headlines message is a bug in Aloha where Aloha can't decide what to do with the data coming from AOL in certain circumstances. I haven't been able to narrow this bug down to fix it though. Usually waiting a 20 minutes and trying again Aloha will work.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Where's my five bux...
Date: 95-09-25 19:42:15 EST
From: PDC Sensha
Posted on: America Online
...Hardy? Cuttin' me off again...
PDC Sensha
"Sacrificing his discount so that Hardy may buy enough gas to commute to his new job in the digital granite quarry..."
Subj: Re:Kind of on the topic....
Date: 95-09-25 20:56:15 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Thanks,
Now I know.
RPGOP
Ryan P. Kennedy
PS- And you of all people SHOULD know. :-)
Subj: Re:Kind of on the topic....
Date: 95-09-26 19:06:01 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Well, mabye not,
Maybe I didn't ask the right question.
Can you, somehow, using the NCK, export the newton mail documents to a desktop mac to be sent on their merry way from there? E-world or AOL.
RPGOP
Ryan
Subj: Re:Crash
Date: 95-09-28 21:56:59 EST
From: Twenty112
Posted on: America Online
>It is impossible for software to damage a newton. If >you have a backup, the complete reset described in >the tips section should clear the newton (erasing all >memory, hence the need for the backup) and correct >whatever problem you might be having. Unless your >machine just happened to die of natural causes >while using Aloha :)
>
>- john schettino
My machine did indeed die of natural causes. :)
It just happened to be Aloha that was on at the time. I sent the unit back to Apple and they replaced an MLB, whatever that is. So, it was a hardware problem.
I'd like to add that the Apple service people did a great job in practically no time.
Now, back to trying out Aloha....
-Kelly
Subj: Remember when...
Date: 95-09-29 11:43:26 EST
From: PDC Sensha
Posted on: America Online
...every product that Apple produced had that wonderful 90 day limited warrantee? We never hear complaints about 1 800 SOS APPL like we used to back in those days...
BTW, MLB = main logic board.
PDC Sensha
Subj: I Want Aloha!
Date: 95-09-30 01:01:58 EST
From: JAbeleda
Posted on: America Online
Where do I download Aloha or who should I call to order it?!!!!
Thanxs!
Subj: Get ready for the Infobahn...
Date: 95-09-30 10:28:43 EST
From: PDC Sensha
Posted on: America Online
Using keyword FTP, search for the University of Iowa Newton software FTP point (uiowa), log on to the service and then go through the Newton software until you find it.
Terry L. Stibal (PDC Sensha)
PDA Forum Consultant, and one of your tour guides at the Newton exit from the information superhighway...
America Online keyword: NEWTON
Subj: Re:Get ready for the Infobahn...
Date: 95-09-30 21:36:00 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
You can get to the FTP site for Aloha via the PDA Forum's Weblinks. We've even included the path--just look in "What's Hot in PDA" or "Weekly Forum Update" for the Weblinks section. :)
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: Upgrade to 1.1?
Date: 95-09-30 23:50:20 EST
From: Ptlpc
Posted on: America Online
I'm a reg user, 1.0, and didn't get an e-mail copy so I dl'd it from amug and installed it on my newt. I entered my old reg # but it won't take (disapears from entry blank) so... help. LOVE IT THOUGH. NICE NICE NICE!
Subj: Re:Upgrade to 1.1?
Date: 95-10-01 08:53:51 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Hardy changed the registration number process with 1.1. The old number related to your screen name, the new one your owner's name. Email HardyMacia and he'll provide you with the new registration.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: Were is it?
Date: 95-10-12 10:48:05 EST
From: HotestGuy
Posted on: America Online
Yeah I have a question.. where the heck is Aloha? Can't find it anywhere online..
Subj: Re:Were is it?
Date: 95-10-12 12:05:47 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
It's not on-line. You need to use the web browser or ftp to get it. The location is:
Keyword pda, what's new, Pda web sites, Newton Web & ftp sites, catamount software (or AMUG, but I don't know where, exactly)
- john schettino
Subj: Re:Were is it?
Date: 95-10-12 12:08:38 EST
From: PDC Sensha
Posted on: America Online
Go to the FTP area of AOL (Keyword: FTP), search for the University of Iowa FTP point. Use that address to log onto the U of Iowa FTP, then look for Aloha. Download when found. It's just that simple...
Terry L. Stibal (PDC Sensha)
PDA Forum Consultant, and one of your tour guides at the Newton exit from the information superhighway...
America Online keyword: NEWTON
Subj: Aloha
Date: 95-10-12 13:50:48 EST
From: Stingrayy1
Posted on: America Online
Where can I get Aloha? Is there a fee for this software?
Subj: Re:Aloha
Date: 95-10-12 13:57:54 EST
From: Hufn
Posted on: America Online
For where see the previous message. It is shareware at, I believe, $50. Though there are a couple of ways to get $5-10 discounts. See the included readme's
hufn
Subj: Does it work well?
Date: 95-10-12 20:05:56 EST
From: HotestGuy
Posted on: America Online
How does it work? Is it worth taking the time to locate and DL?
Subj: 1.03
Date: 95-10-12 20:23:12 EST
From: OHboh
Posted on: America Online
i tried an older version of aloha and would like to regester and get the newest version. i sighned onto newton.uiowa.edu and only found the old version. can you e-mail me the newest version. i am not sure what is ment when asked to send our name card. where is it and how. my trial time is over so i can not do it with my newton.
thankyou,
ohboh
Subj: Re:Does it work well?
Date: 95-10-13 07:35:36 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
It works very well. Many of us "PDC's" have and use Aloha to keep in touch with AOL while on the road. Integration with the Newton is almost seamless. Email works (simply put). You'll use your newton more. Connection is a breeze (unlike LunaMail).
I like it, I paid for it, I use it.
- john schettino
Subj: Re:1.03
Date: 95-10-13 07:39:21 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
You may want to look in the "submissions" directory for the latest version. If you are using a version of AOL with a web browser, you can get the latest version directly from Hardy's home page:
http://www.together.com/~hardy/
A "name card" is simply a Newton Names card with *your* information filled in. You should make one of these anyway, so you can beam it to other Newton-Enabled folks. If you install the new version, you can get the 7 day trial again, so send out the card first thing, and then use registerIt to send your shareware fee :)
- john schettino (happy Aloha owner)
Subj: How's the new version comming?
Date: 95-10-13 07:43:39 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
While 1.1 is very capable, I'm looking forward to some of the new features of Aloha 1.2 (or is that 2.0 :) )
The "biggies" I'd like are:
- login name/access number pickers on the main screen, instead of buried in "prefs"
- support for AOLnet and/or tymnet (AOLnet preferable for me, and probably most everyone else)
- reduction in package size by moving "help" into a newton book (so only Aloha needs to be installed internally, and the help book can be on a card)
What's the timeframe? I'm sure you're busy at the new job, but is this somthing we can hope to see "soon"?
- john schettino
Subj: Re:1.03
Date: 95-10-13 17:22:26 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
> you can get the latest version directly from
> Hardy's home page:
>
> http://www.together.com/~hardy/
Hardy's home page is included in the PDA web site collection, so you can just click it from there. :)
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(NANUG online tonight at 9:00 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: No Phd in computer science
Date: 95-10-13 22:15:41 EST
From: SixthPAReg
Posted on: America Online
I would like to try Aloha, but seems you need to download (?) software and then do something and something else before you can get the software..... Is Aloha not available commercially? Seems making it difficult to obtain simply spawns copying. I have bought other software such as QFPro, and think its great and won't 'share' with anyone. If anyone knows how to do these 'downloads' of this and that please let me know. Simply knowing that it must be done is not enough. There is too much left up to the imagination for non-hacker types. Where are the directions about how to do it? Improving this area would undoubtedly help software authors sell their products.
Subj: Re:No Phd in computer science
Date: 95-10-13 22:34:48 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
It's fairly easy to find Aloha... use keyword PDA, click on "What's Hot in PDA" and then the Web Links item. Read the About doc at the top--it gives you the path to Aloha. Then click on the Newton Web sites folder, the newton.uiowa.edu line, and follow the path.
Or even easier... Hardy will probably email it to you when he sees your post. ;)
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: file download - BINHEX4.0?
Date: 95-10-14 21:09:06 EST
From: SixthPAReg
Posted on: America Online
I know that halloween is coming, but is BINHEX4.0 an incantation or is it something available on AOL or does one surf the web to find such a thing? Once one has it, is there help or files included which tell one how to use it to, i presume, do the equivalent of 'unzip' a file? Any help much appreciated. I will not give up in my quest!
Subj: Re:file download - BINHEX4.0?
Date: 95-10-14 21:56:57 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
BinHex for PCs is available right here in the PDA Forum--look in our General/Utilities library. It is near the top. There are also Mac binhex utilities, although Stuffit Expander is the easiest to use.
In fact, the Windows Expander will unencode files, so you might just download that utility.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: Re:No Phd in computer science
Date: 95-10-15 06:21:48 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
The reason it's not very easy to get Aloha, relative to other files here in the AOL library, is that AOL won't allow Hardy to place Aloha in the Library (some messy details like violation of the TOS :) )
Since AOL has web and ftp access, you can get Aloha from the "usual places" on the internet. As craig says, it's all in the keyword PDA, "What's Hot..." area. "Surfing the Net" via the AOL web browser is not bad as link as you are connecting to AOL at 14.4 or faster, and you have the latest AOL software. If non of that makes any sense, then wait for Hardy to email you a copy :)
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
HomePage: http://users.aol.com/pdcjohns/
Subj: Re:file download - BINHEX4.0?
Date: 95-10-15 06:29:58 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
A little knowledge...
The Mac file system has what you would call "smart files". They contian not only the data, but information about which app created them, and which app should be used on them, and what their icon is. This is why a Mac user can double-click a data file and have the correct application launch & edit it. How do they do this magic? They have two "forks" (or sections) for each file, the Data fork, which has the data in it, and the resource fork, which has the special stuff in it. Additionally, there are file flags that contain some of the owner information. When a Mac file is copied into a non-Mac operating system, the flags (and sometimes the resource fork) are lost, leaving only the data. This loss of important information lead to the use of text encodeing schemes like BINHEX. Binhex simply converts a file into textual representations of all the binary data (Hexidecimal values, represented as text, hence bin-HEX). A Mac user can receive a BINHEX file via Email, FTP, or AOL, and simply de-binhex it to get a fully "Mac frendly" file with all the resource info and flags intact. For a WinTel user, most of the resource/flag information is useless, so a Windows/DOS deBinHexer simply discards that information when converting the text file back into binary data.
Happy Computing!
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
HomePage: http://users.aol.com/pdcjohns/
Subj: Re:How's the new version comming
Date: 95-10-17 16:16:51 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha 2.0 is pretty much a big rewrite. It integrates into the Newton OS much better.
The help book is separate. The package size is about 35k.
AOLnet will be supported (I haven't implemented it yet, but it should be done for the release)
>login name/access number pickers on the main screen,
Yes. It's in there.
You can also send email for just one account at a time. It won't try to send all of your mail from the account you log in from. Each mail message knows what account it belongs to.
Timeframe is sometime within the next 30 days.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:How's the new version comming
Date: 95-10-18 06:10:29 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Yeah! Sounds great! I've been *very* happy with Aloha 1.1, and look forward to 2.0's better features. The smaller package size makes it viable for internal storage even on a MP100! Cool!
Thanks for the continued support of a great product.
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
HomePage: http://users.aol.com/pdcjohns/
Subj: Re:How's the new version comming
Date: 95-10-18 21:06:27 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Hey, I don't yet have a Newton, and I am a registered user (weird, huh?).
My question is, what is the deal with upgrades for regestered users?
RPGOP
Ryan
Subj: Re:How's the new version comming
Date: 95-10-20 08:51:08 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Ryan,
Because you won your copy of Aloha in Newton Jepardy without owning a Newton yet your upgrade is free.
Other upgrade pricing has not been decided on yet, but it is estimated to be $10.
More info coming soon...
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Thanks Hardy :-)
Date: 95-10-21 16:50:45 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
It really doesn't matter to me, I mean, I wouldn't be mad if you didn't.
Thanks again for Aloha.
RPGOP
Ryan
If I happen to find some cash one of these days, (not for a while, being that I am about to actually buy a Newton) I think that I am going to register it anyway.
Subj: Aloha "how do I get a copy?"
Date: 95-10-21 19:50:14 EST
From: Used1Up
Posted on: America Online
Been reading all the other messages about Aloha, how do I get a copy, I've recenly purchased a MP 120 with 2 megs and an additional 2 meg "enhancement package". The cost seems fair, but I'd like to check out the program first -- is that possible or do you have to spend the $50 first?
Subj: Re:Aloha "how do I get a copy?"
Date: 95-10-21 22:41:11 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
You can get Aloha from Hardy's web page--just click on the Catamount home page item in PDA's Weblinks collection (available in What's Hot in PDA and Weekly Forum Update... guess I better point them into Newton, too ;).
You can try Aloha for seven days before paying.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: Aloha for OS2.0?
Date: 95-11-09 08:41:21 EST
From: Jswu
Posted on: America Online
Will Aloha be compatible with Newton OS 2.0? I read somewhere the OS will allow better integration of e-mail clients.
Subj: Re:Aloha for OS2.0?
Date: 95-11-09 17:26:53 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Will Aloha be compatible with Newton OS 2.0?
Aloha 2.0 will.
For details wait until I finish writing up the press release tonight and I'll post it later tomorrow or Monday.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-13 11:41:14 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha Product Announcement
Catamount Software
Contact: Hardy Macia
Tel: (802) 863-5256
Internet: info@catamount.com
www: http://www.together.net/~hardy
Aloha 2.0 Announced:
Download AOL email from Newton PDAs.
Essex, Vermont, November 13, 1995 - Catamount Software announces the availability of Aloha an email client for the Newtonr platform. Send and receive important email anytime and anywhere through your Newton PDA and America Online, one of the most popular online services.
"I chose AOL because it is the most popular online service. I chose a Newton PDA because it gives portability that notebook computers can't even match. And, I chose Aloha because it allows my Newton PDA to send and receive email with my existing AOL accounts." said Gary Greco of president of PowerMedia, Inc. "Whether I'm at the park connecting with my cellular phone or if I'm in Hong Kong on business travel Aloha keeps me connected to my email."
Aloha Features
o Performs flash email session to AOL
o Access multiple AOL accounts
o Save multiple access numbers
o SprintNet, AOLNet, and AOL's 800 number networks supported
o AOLGlobalNet support will be added after
o AOL is finished their testing
o Works with Motorola Cellect cellular modem.
o Connect at speeds up to 28,800 baud
o Filter incoming messages on title or email address
o Set internet style signature to all out going messages
o America Online connection rates still apply
o Download 14 day demo of Aloha
o Gives AOL users an easy way to pay for Newton shareware.
o Purchase with via credit card with Register
o Shareware $50 (some discounts may apply)
o Upgrades from version 1.1 of Aloha are $10.
Downloadable Versions available from Catamount Software's World Wide Web site <http://www.together.net/~hardy>
2.0b5 for Mac-this only works on NOS 2.0, but there is a version that works on NOS 1.3.
2.0b5 for PC - is being zipped! Please be patient.
Catamount Software was founded in 1993 to develop software for Newton PDAs. Catamount Software's Newton PDA products include: 1) PocketMoney, a personal finance manager ; 2) MPG, a vehicle log for tracking business mileage, fuel economy, and maintenance schedules. PocketMoney and MPG both received an honorable mention in MacUser's Annual Shareware Awards(Sept. 95).
Newton is a registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. America Online is a registered service mark of America Online, Inc. All other brand names mentioned are registered trademarks or trademarks of their respective holders, and are hereby acknowledged.
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-13 17:31:23 EST
From: AussieRN
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
For those of us who have already paid the $50 (or $45 wth discount for Aloha 1.1) why do we have to pay an additional $10 to upgrade???? That means we are paying $60 all up for the product when you are selling it to those who do not have it for $50. We have been loyal from the beginning when the product came out and are paying more than a new user. Can this be right????
John
Subj: How to put pictures??
Date: 95-11-13 17:51:11 EST
From: ORL Town
Posted on: America Online
I really like to have my pictures or icons in my Newton 120. I even have my pictures already scaned. Can anyone tells me how I can put them on my newton. Or what software I need to that. Is it free or not....
Again, I really need to know that! Its pretty important to me...
Thank You
Subj: Re:How to put pictures??
Date: 95-11-13 18:22:57 EST
From: LeeMoon
Posted on: America Online
This isn't an Aloha topic, but I can help you with putting pictures on the Newton. I've got a few things you can try out: Newton Movie Player, Newton Slide Show, PALMEDIA Player (almost - it's in beta right now).
You can search the libraries for "Newton Moon" and find the packages mentioned above, or you can visit my WWW page:
http://users.aol.com/LeeMoon/
and download them from there.
Hope this helps,
Lee
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-13 18:55:27 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
I have yet to seen ANY worthy product that is NOT marketed in this way. It is the way it works. Early bird pays more, but gets more use. Late bloomer pays less, but gets less use...
The age-old question....
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-14 00:48:35 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
John,
The reasons for the upgrade fee are...
1. I need the new revenue to pay for the multiple trips to CA which were required to learn NOS 2.0,
2. the Newton associates program fees,
3. the advertising,
4. my time spent writing 2.0 for the NOS 2.0, and
5. it is not just a compatibility upgrade it is also an enchancement upgrade.
There is only one person who does not need to pay an upgrade fee and that is for screen name RGGOP. He won a copy of Aloha in Jepordy, but he doesn't even own a Newton yet.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
www: <http://www.together.net/~hardy>
email: hardy@catamount.com
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-14 14:48:37 EST
From: Boss111
Posted on: America Online
"o Connect at speeds up to 28,800 baud"
Following AOL's lead here in the (mis)use of "baud" vs. bps? I expected more :-(
Of course with AOLNet support now, my check's in the mail...
-David
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-14 19:56:30 EST
From: Jswu
Posted on: America Online
Is Aloha 2.0 integrated into the OS, so we will se an Aloha symbol in the In/Out Box for AOL e-mail?
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-14 20:08:08 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
LOL!!!
:-)
<<There is only one person who does not need to pay an upgrade fee and that is for screen name RGGOP. He won a copy of Aloha in Jepordy, but he doesn't even own a Newton yet.>>
LOL :-)
I better watch it, or I might break my computer!
I am laughing that hard.
OK, Thank you again Hardy. You make "screen name R"G"GOP" sound so impersonal, but, I shouldn't be complaining.
I (for those of you who actually might care) am getting my Newton VERY soon. You know what, I think that it is time to post a profile of me in the what-ever it is called folder. I think that I will go and do that.
I can't thank you enough Hardy, good luck to you with your semi new job. :-)
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
(And who just got his FREE AOL tee-shirt on Friday :-)
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-15 09:18:34 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Yesm, it is *very* well integrated due to the new mail system in NOS2.0. Good job Apple and Hardy!
You can see Aloha in action by downloading the 2.0 beta from hardy's web site. The manual included has screen shots of it running under 2.0. Drool.
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
HomePage: http://users.aol.com/pdcjohns/
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-21 17:50:09 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>Following AOL's lead here in the (mis)use of "baud" vs. bps? I expected more :-(
Sorry, I don't know all of the jargon. I just copy it from where I see it.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.0 for NOS 2.0
Date: 95-11-21 17:53:05 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> Is Aloha 2.0 integrated into the OS, so we will se an Aloha symbol in
> the In/Out Box for AOL e-mail?
Yes. It even handles multiple accounts correctly. So, you can queue messages to send out from any of your accounts and only the messages of the account you connect to will be sent out.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Mails w/attach files
Date: 95-11-21 23:54:15 EST
From: ORL Town
Posted on: America Online
Is there anyway so that we can tell aloha to read the text in mails that have attach files. Instead of just saying that: "this is mail that has a file, please check it with your own AOL account"
Please le me know
Orl Town@AOL.COM
thanks
Subj: Re: Mails w/attach files
Date: 95-11-25 17:59:36 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
There currently is no way for Aloha to read mail with attached files because of the way I implemented it.
This was been requested before and I do plan on doing something about it as soon as I have the time to implement new features.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Finding Aloha
Date: 95-11-30 04:41:30 EST
From: AgnesisGod
Posted on: America Online
I have just downloaded Aloha off of AOL from MacWorld software library.
Subj: Re:Finding Aloha
Date: 95-11-30 17:58:12 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Then the heck with it... if it can be in MacWorld's libraries, there's no reason for it not to be here. (We'll just keep our fingers crossed that flies with the powers that be! ;)
Subj: Of course...
Date: 95-11-30 22:19:28 EST
From: PDC Sensha
Posted on: America Online
...Hardy's web page hits will go down after it's on AOL...
hehehehehehe
Terry L. Stibal (PDC Sensha)
PDA Forum Consultant, and your host at the Monday night "Nothin' But Newton" conference; join me at 9:30 EST each Monday in the PDA Conference Room (America Online keyword: PDA)
Subj: ALOHA HERE IN PDA!!!
Date: 95-12-01 19:51:25 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
FINALLY...
Aloha is now available in the PDA Forum's New Files and Free Uploading.
Enjoy! :)
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
Chats Monday & Wednesday @ 9:30 ET - Keyword PDA
Subj: Re:Of course...
Date: 95-12-02 15:59:41 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>...Hardy's web page hits will go down after it's on AOL...
I hope the hits won't go down to far...My page will still be the local place to browse all of Catamount Software's wares in one place. So, I hope people still come to visit. It's being updated all of the time. :-)
http://www.together.net/~hardy/
- Hardy
Subj: Aloha What Not
Date: 95-12-05 04:13:45 EST
From: AgnesisGod
Posted on: America Online
I have recently recieved a Message Pad w/Newton 2.0 and atempted to upload Aloha into it and recieved an error message that would not allow this to happen. Have I done something wrong? Is Aloha not yet compatible w/2.0?
AgnesIsGod@AOL.com
Subj: E-mail Return address
Date: 95-12-05 05:24:09 EST
From: PaulNelson
Posted on: America Online
When I send e-mail via Aloha my return address is PaulNelson@aol.com@eworld.com. Why is my newton adding the @eworld.com on the end of my e-mail address? Is there some way i can change this?
Subj: Re:Aloha What Not
Date: 95-12-05 08:11:59 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Get the Aloha 2.0 beta from the AOL library. Aloha 1.1 will not work on a MP 120/2.0
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
HomePage: http://members.aol.com/pdcjohns/
Subj: Re:E-mail Return address
Date: 95-12-05 08:13:59 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Is this Aloha 1.1 or 2.0?
I bet you put your address into Aloha's prefs as
PaulNelson@aol.com
You should just use PaulNelson
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
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Subj: Re:E-mail Return address
Date: 95-12-07 09:21:32 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Your return email address is set by AOL. Aloha doesn't set it.
Please let me know what you are doing to see this behavior and what version of Aloha you have. Are you sending a message to yourself and then looking at the return address?
Appending of @eworld.com has been a bug in ALoha 2.0bx for some cases, but I thought Aloha 2.0b7 had fixed all of problems of this type.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Aloha removed :(
Date: 95-12-07 12:10:06 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Folks,
Please don't kill the messenger...
I've been ordered to remove Aloha from the PDA Forum. MacWorld is removing it as well. No explanation was given on this decision.
I've made it crystal clear to AOL that I disagree with this decision. While I will continue to fight, it seems completely out of my hands.
Sadly,
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
Subj: Re:Aloha removed :(
Date: 95-12-07 19:21:53 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Though it is (now was) convienient to get it from the libraries, I don't think that Hardy's WWW site will scare anyone away ;-)
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Got it to work CELLULAR!
Date: 95-12-10 10:31:52 EST
From: Lynford D
Posted on: America Online
I got the new ver of Aloha to work with my cellular phone to get my eMail from AOL.And send mail to AOL.
The only problem is that it will not disconnect evert time. Any Ideas?
LynfordD
Subj: Where to find ALOHA?
Date: 95-12-10 17:30:28 EST
From: SLCVR6
Posted on: America Online
Can someone e-mail where I can get ALOHA from? Thanks.
-Robert
Subj: Re:Got it to work CELLULAR!
Date: 95-12-10 20:17:07 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>I got the new ver of Aloha to work with my cellular phone ...
>The only problem is that it will not disconnect evert time. Any Ideas?
Does the phone not hang up? Or Aloha doesn't disconnect?
Hoping to get a cell-phone next year so I can experience some of these cell-phone problems first hand.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
www: <http://www.together.net/~hardy>
email: hardy@catamount.com
(Aloha, PocketMoney, MPG, TimeLock, NameDropper,
NoteScroller,...)
Subj: Re:Where to find ALOHA?
Date: 95-12-10 20:22:43 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
You can download it from my web page.
http://www.together.net/~hardy
or
<<just click on the Catamount home page item in PDA's Weblinks collection (available in What's Hot in PDA and Weekly Forum Update...>>
The Newton OS 1.3 and the Newton OS 2.0 versions are both available.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
www: <http://www.together.net/~hardy>
email: hardy@catamount.com
(Aloha, PocketMoney, MPG, TimeLock, NameDropper,
NoteScroller,...)
Subj: ALOHA 2.0 available
Date: 95-12-14 10:07:55 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha 2.0 is now available. It fixes many of the problems (2.0b7) users were experiencing trying to connect to AOLNet phone numbers.
You can download it from my web page.
http://www.together.net/~hardy
or
<<just click on the Catamount home page item in PDA's Weblinks collection (available in What's Hot in PDA and Weekly Forum Update...>>
Subj: International Access
Date: 95-12-16 12:14:46 EST
From: BLeubitz
Posted on: America Online
Is it possible to use Aloha from Europe?
Brian Leubitz
Subj: Problems w/Aloha & 2.0
Date: 95-12-16 23:36:33 EST
From: MauerJ
Posted on: America Online
I have been playing around with Aloha 2.0 on my Newton (with 2.0 OS) and for some reason it refuses to show email it has downloaded. It goes through all the steps in dialing, connecting, etc... it correctly identifies how many pieces of mail there are, and proceeds to download, and once it is done-voila, no email. Hmm...
It has been making a couple of beeps when it finishes (like the ones from Lunar Lander)-does that signify anything?
I hope I am just doing something stupid, because this software does look useful and well integrated with the new operating system. Now if I could just get it to work... sigh.
Jason Mauer
Subj: Re:Problems w/Aloha & 2.0
Date: 95-12-17 00:33:59 EST
From: JAustin
Posted on: America Online
Hardy (and all):
I've been having similar problems, with Aloha logging in, reading the mail index, and then disconnecting -- sometimes after downloading the first (and *only* the first) of multiple messages, and sometimes downloading nothing at all. A subsequent AOL desktop session then confirms that messages were there waiting to be downloaded, but without result on the Newton. Unlike previous posters, I don't think that Aloha is downloading and "losing" them, I just think it's failing to download them in the first place.
As far as I can tell, this has happened with both AOLnet and SprintNet connections. I don't think there's anything strange about my config (2.0 is too new to load up with a bunch of junk), and I'm pretty sure my Aloha prefs are the way they should be (unless the "strip Internet headers" setting, which I'm using, is creating the problem). It appears that this may be more of a problem with long messages, such as mailing list postings of 20K-30K, which Aloha 1.1 used to break up into segments without any problem. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jay Austin
Subj: Re:Problems w/Aloha & 2.0
Date: 95-12-17 17:00:30 EST
From: MauerJ
Posted on: America Online
That about hits the nail on the head for the problems I've been experiencing... I haven't had a chance to play around with the Internet Header setting but that is a good theory as to why it isn't working.
Help!
Jason Mauer
Subj: Re:Problems w/Aloha & 2.0
Date: 95-12-17 23:38:19 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
OK, Be warned everyone that this is a problem...you will need to log onto AOL with your desktop machine and 'check mail you have read'.
I'm not able to reproduce it yet. I am able to send and receive mail fine.
I'll double check the long email message theory. This was the problem in an older beta, but I thought that I fixed it in 2.0.
Hardy
Subj: Re:International Access
Date: 95-12-17 23:39:54 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
AOLGlobalNet is not supported yet, but you can log onto AOL with SprintNet from Europe/Asia.
Call SprintNet at 800-877-5045 and follow the menus to international access numbers.
Hardy
Subj: Germany Access
Date: 95-12-18 16:32:42 EST
From: DPatzer703
Posted on: America Online
Has anybody a solution to access AOL from my Newton in Germany ?
Dirk :-(
Subj: Aloha 2.01 on web site
Date: 95-12-18 22:49:53 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha 2.01 is at http://www.together.net/~hardy and also on the AMUG ftp site.
2.01 fixes some of the problems associated with losing your incoming email.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.01 on web site
Date: 95-12-18 23:52:38 EST
From: MauerJ
Posted on: America Online
Cheers to HardyMacia for such a quick response to bug postings. I wish all software developers had such speedy turnaround!
Jason Mauer
Keep It Simple Systems
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.01 on web site
Date: 95-12-19 03:56:03 EST
From: DSimons
Posted on: America Online
I appreciate the quick bug-fix version, but I'm having the same problems in 2.01 with incoming email not appearing in the in-box.
It seems to download fine from AOL (I see "reading 1 of 1" or something like that), but never appears in the Newton.
Another strangeness is that even if I use the "Leave on AOL" option, the message is gone from AOL (but I can still see it if I "Check Mail You've Read").
I haven't used Aloha before (2.01 is my first install), so I may be doing something stupid...
-David Simons
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.01 on web site
Date: 95-12-19 09:58:18 EST
From: JAustin
Posted on: America Online
OK, here's my new theory: Hardy is right that the "no mail downloaded" problem has something to do with heap space. In fact, immediately after installing and trying to use 2.01 (my thanks also for the quick rewrite!) I got the new warning box saying that my free heap was < 40K. I started a session anyway, and had the exact same problem.
I took Hardy's advice, froze *all* my packages (less than 10, by the way), and rebooted. Got the exact same message about lack of free heap, which left me *much* more frustrated by Apple than by Aloha. Ran the session anyway, and this time it worked fine, including a proper download and segmentation of a very long mail message (first time that had worked for me).
Later, trying to figure out what was hogging heap on my now-stock Newton 120, I realized that I have had the Dates application set to background during this whole ordeal. Could it be that it takes more heap in the background than Notes? Switched back to Notes, and ran another session, which also went fine and did *not* generate the warning box.
Too early to say if this solves the problem, but it's worth a try. I'd love to know if other users reporting the bug also have had the background app set to something other than Notes.
LOL,
Jay Austin
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.01 on web site
Date: 95-12-19 10:34:11 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Dates is a real heap user (compared to notes).
Technobable follows:
Notes usually has one or two entries open in a single soup for its display. Also, there are not as many views needed to generate the display. In other words, unless you have an ink note visible the heap usage by Notes is only about 5-8kb.
Dates has 4 soups, and you may have entries from all 4 "active" on a day display. Even more is used by the other views. Furthermore, the display in Dates is much more complex (many views are created for the month, date, day, crib notes, etc.) The result is that Dates can use over 20kb of heap when open, depending on how busy you are.
You only have about 70kb of heap free after a reset, and you lose about 20kb after you've been thru the extras drawer, names, dates, and IOBox once. If you're running Notes as your background, you should have around 50-55kb heap free.
Technobable ends.
Rant mode on:
Why after 3 years is heap still a problem? WHY? I really wish they'd fix this. PLEASE!!! Just give us another 40kb of heap! Grrrr! The heap under 2.0 is FIXED at 160kb. Why not fix it at 200 instead? Why run "on the edge" when you could have a lot of headroom? More free heap = faster speed. I'd have 100kb of heap free instead of 60, and I'd love to have it....
Thanks, I feel better :)
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
HomePage: http://members.aol.com/pdcjohns/
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.01 incoming mail
Date: 95-12-19 18:08:17 EST
From: DrDelgado
Posted on: America Online
I too can not find my incoming mail using version 2.01. Help!
Ed
Subj: Sutpid Question
Date: 95-12-19 22:28:50 EST
From: JimLamo
Posted on: America Online
What is Aloha? I gather it is SW to allow me to use to my Newton to log on to AOL? If so, could you please tell this non-power user how I can get it to try it?
Subj: Dumb answer...
Date: 95-12-19 22:55:00 EST
From: PDC Sensha
Posted on: America Online
Use the Newton Web Sites link on the Newton Resource Center to access Catamont Software's home page. You can download Aloha from there...
Terry L. Stibal (PDC Sensha)
PDA Forum Consultant, and your host at the Monday night "Nothin' But Newton" conference; join me at 9:30 EST each Monday in the PDA Conference Room (America Online keyword: PDA)
Subj: Re:Sutpid Question
Date: 95-12-19 22:57:44 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Aloha, is a program for Newton messagepads (and expertpads, and marco's) that will allow you to send and reciew AOL e-mail. (It will be like the way sending Newtonmail is now, only it will go through AOL). I believe it requires OS 1.3 or later (so if you have an unupgraded 0MP, it will not work. Otherwise it will).
You can get it from Hardy's (author) WWW page.
Go to the main Newton screne. then go to the Newton WWW sites area.
It will be called either Catamount Software, or Hardy Marcia's WWW Page.
Go there, and click on the link to the file.
(This is assuming that you have WWW access)
If you don't have WWW access, then, tell me, because I will have to dig up the FTP site that it is on. WWW is easier.
Unfortunatly, it is not in the file libraries on AOL, because the AOL Brass, well, I won't say, but, it goes against their policy to have 3rd party AOL software.
As you can see, no one is happy at the fact that they don't allow it. Oh well...
Hope this helps...
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
See Ryan on the Info-SuperHighway @
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Still No Go with Aloha 2.0.1
Date: 95-12-20 03:01:31 EST
From: MauerJ
Posted on: America Online
I have been trying to get Aloha 2.0.1 to work, with still the same problems as before (connects but fails to download mail on my 2.0 Newton). I have been using Notes as my background app throughout the testing. Sigh...
Dreaming of connecting to AOL from my Newton for Xmas,
Jason Mauer
Subj: Re:Still No Go Aloha 2.0.1
Date: 95-12-20 09:18:51 EST
From: PDC JohnS
Posted on: America Online
Try freezing most of your 3rd party apps, and then reset your newton. Then try to connect. If it works, then you've got some heap eaters installed ;)
- John Schettino, PDC JohnS, Keyword PDA is where to find us!
PDA Forum Consultant and Newton File Librarian
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Subj: Loading Aloha
Date: 95-12-20 10:56:12 EST
From: Ronk1
Posted on: America Online
I may be missing something very obvious, but I just my my Newton back from the upgrade. I downloaded the latest Aloha 2.x from Hardy's web site, expanded the file using Stuffit and then tried to install the package on my Newton, using the Windows Newton Backup Utility. While the package appear to expand fine to Aloha201.pkg, I keep getting a message "Aloha201.pkg cannot be installed. It does not appear to be a package. Any ideas - I was able to backup my newton using the Windows backup software.
ron
Subj: New possibilties...
Date: 95-12-20 12:05:30 EST
From: GyreMedia
Posted on: America Online
The main drawback for me with either eWorld or Aloha for remote email gathering is that my main email address is an internet address, and neither eWorld or AOL can access that mail. Or so I thought...
Turns out, it's quite simple. All you need to do is:
1) if you have FTP access to your account/site, upload a text file called ".forward" (without the quotes). Inside the file have one line of text -- the full internet address (i.e. user@aol.com) you want your mail forwarded to.
or
2) ask your provider to perform step 1.
Now, anytime I'm leaving the office for any length of time I just upload the file and collect my mail with the Newton through eWorld (would also work with Aloha/AOL). When I get back, I rename the file to something innocuous...
Sorry to those for whom this is old news, but for me it was a revelation...
Charlie
Subj: Aloha 2.02
Date: 95-12-23 12:52:40 EST
From: DrDelgado
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
I think that you have a winner with Aloha 2.02 After trying 2.0 and 2.01 without success (both failed to retreive messages) 2.02 has worked great!!! Keep up the good work and thanks for fixing the previous bugs in time to the Xmas travel season.
By the way, my check is in the mail.....Ok, I will mail it after the holidays :)
Happy holidays
Ed
Subj: Re:Loading Aloha
Date: 95-12-24 11:05:34 EST
From: Lifgrdtt
Posted on: America Online
I have the same problem that you are having.... exactly... Hope there is someone with words of wisdom for us...
Subj: Using Aloha abroad
Date: 95-12-25 02:21:05 EST
From: ZanderC
Posted on: America Online
Hi, I am going to Sweden on a few days and thought it would be nice to use my Newton and Aloha to get my mail. I checked here on AOL for the AOLGlobalnet access numbers and sure enough, they had a 28.8 connection for Sweden. I thought I should try it out and the best way I could think of was actually dialing the # in Sweden after setting the preferences to Aolnet-alterantive. It did not work but told me that the connection had "given up" or something to that effect.
Comments?
Alexander
email me a copy of your comment please since I have a hard time finding my way back to this cozy corner of the world
Subj: Re:Using Aloha abroad
Date: 95-12-25 02:27:41 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Aloha doesn't support AOLGlobalNet yet. I have to spend a little bit of time to figure out the protocol when I get back from vacation and then I'll release a version that will let you connect abroad.
Look for a local SprintNet number overseas also a lot of places has a sprintnet number.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Loading Aloha
Date: 95-12-25 02:28:28 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
In the Windows Stuffit Expander preferences for CROSS PLATFORM you must check the box NEVER.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02
Date: 95-12-25 02:30:16 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
As Ed said Aloha 2.02 fixes the downloading messages problem. Please download this from my web site.
It wasn't related to heap after all. I will release a new version that will not warn you about your heap usage until it drops below 30k.
Merry Christmas
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Using Aloha abroad
Date: 95-12-25 20:40:01 EST
From: Jswu
Posted on: America Online
I go to Sweden every month. There are SprintNet phone numbers available in Sweden which you can use with Aloha. You can call Spirnt to get the numbers for the city you will be in.
Subj: Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Windows
Date: 95-12-26 00:04:49 EST
From: TLBahensky
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
I used stuffit expander (with "never" boxes checked in the cross platform setup) to expand Aloha202.hqx. Both Aloha and Register loaded properly. However, when I load either one individually on my internal storage and backup only the internal storage and packages, I get a -1 error message and a disconnect. I have managed to get a good internal backup using NBU for windows and when I erase the package (I have loaded them one at a time with the same results) I can again successfully get a good internal backup. I have yet to get a complete backup on the card because of a -1 error message followed by a disconnect as well. The only package that will not backup on my card appears to be MailTime. Since it came with my updated 120 I don't want to erase it unless I can get a replacement. I also noticed MailTime is designed to work with Aloha. Just a guess, but it appears there might be a problem with NBU for Windows and Aloha related packages causing -1 error messages. Any thoughts? I haven't tried Aloha202 yet but will give it a shot to see if it is working properly.
Thanks
TLBahensky
Subj: Aloha connection problem...
Date: 95-12-26 01:30:59 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
I tried Aloha once today, but, there was a weird connection error. I didn't try it again, so, it could just be the normal sprintnet "we are holier than god" so we won't connect problem ;-)
I will try again after I sleep a while ;-)
From what I have done so far Hardy, it is a wonderful program! Kudos to you Hardy!
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
See Ryan on the Info-SuperHighway @
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 95-12-26 08:58:36 EST
From: TLBahensky
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
Tried reloading Aloha 2.02 and backing up my 120 using NBU for Windows (the final version not a beta). I still get a -1 error message followed by a disconnect. Also tried to connect to AOL. Everything seems to work ok to the point I get the message "connected at 2400" (I am using the Newton external modem) and then my 120 freezes. I can't stop the connection by tapping stop. I have to manually disconnect and reset my 120 to get it working again. Any ideas?
Thanks
TLBahensky
Subj: To Register or Not
Date: 95-12-26 14:02:12 EST
From: PaulR81755
Posted on: America Online
What is the status of Aloha with AOL, can we use it and does it work at present with AOL? Thanks
Pls rply PaulR81755
Subj: Re:To Register or Not
Date: 95-12-26 23:25:55 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
Yes, Aloha has, does and probibly will work for some time now.
It is shareware, from Catamount Software, and it is quite remarkable...
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
See Ryan on the Info-SuperHighway @
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Error....
Date: 95-12-26 23:27:16 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
OK, what does this mean...
Time out error...
-16005
I was able to connect at 14.4, but then nothing happened. I am clueless.
Thanks in advance...
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
See Ryan on the Info-SuperHighway @
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Crash
Date: 95-12-27 01:30:59 EST
From: L Osta
Posted on: America Online
I was trying to scrub Aloha 2.01 (which I was never able to get working) when it crashed my Newton, I now cannot start up my Newton after a soft reset it gets stuck in "Activating packages on the store "internal"" the bar doesn't move an it just sits there, it's 10:30 PM I can't call SOSAPPL. can anyone help, must I do a hard reset and loose the last few days. HELP!!
Subj: What would be neat now
Date: 95-12-27 11:27:47 EST
From: D76
Posted on: America Online
Now that Aloha has all of this world-wide transportablity it'd be neat if there was a book out there that had all of AOL's dialup numbers for their local dial ups.... :D
Just an idea. :D
Brian Garrett
Subj: aloha
Date: 95-12-27 18:23:32 EST
From: Howard ST
Posted on: America Online
I used aloha for the first time over this weekend. When I first tried to get my messages, I got a message from aloha (after it connected) saying "Ignoring HEaders" .. and then it didn't actually download any of the messages in my in box.
Now too be fair, i had *several hundred* messages in my in box (I belong to a few listservs, and I hadn't deleted old stuff for a while....
...I logged on with my PC and deleted a *ton* of stuff (so I only had 5 messages left) and aloha worked fine.
Is there a known limit to the number of items aloha can download? Also, it would be better, if aloha can't handle the amount of stuff thats in your in box, if it said so rather than just making it look like there was nothing in there.
Otherwise, though, wonderful product...something we've needed for a long time...
...now if there was just one for Microsoft mail!
-H
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 95-12-28 11:38:04 EST
From: AKessel
Posted on: America Online
I am having the identical problem.
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 95-12-28 20:19:22 EST
From: TLBahensky
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
Thanks for sending me the Aloha 2.02 file. Unfortunately it did not solve all of my problems. As a reminder the problems I was having were;
1. Getting a -1 error message followed by a disconnect when trying to backup my 120 using NBU for windows (the final version not a beta).
2. When using Aloha I would get as far as "connected at 2400" (I am using the external Newton modem) when everything would freeze up. I had to restart to get things going again.
With the file you sent me problem #1 went away and I can get a good backup (only if I install Aloha on my internal storage and backup on the internal). For some reason I have something on my card that will not let me do complete package backups and I always end up with a -1 error followed by a disconnect. I am trying to figure that one out.
The second problem still exists. I can get no farther than "connected at 2400" and everything freezes. Don't know what else to do. Any ideas?
Thanks
TLBahensky
Subj: Aloha 2.02 & Screen Freeze
Date: 95-12-29 21:23:38 EST
From: TLBahensky
Posted on: America Online
I was having a problem when using Aloha 2.02 and trying to connect to AOL with getting stuck in the "connected at 2400" mode. Everything would freeze up and I would have to reset my 120 to get things going again. After trying several things I finally (should have done this much earlier) tried another AOL access number. It turns out this worked. Both numbers I used were SprintNet numbers. The number I was using did work on my 110 with an earlier version of Aloha. In fact it still works with my PC. Don't know what is the difference or what might have changed with the SprintNet number but if anyone is having a similar problem try a different number the very first thing. I did e-mail Hardy and let him know what I found as well.
TLBahensky
Subj: Re:New possibilties...
Date: 95-12-30 01:10:59 EST
From: Ron Hite
Posted on: America Online
Why don't you just get Eudora Lite (for the Newton)?
Ron Hite
http://users.aol.com/ronhite
Subj: Re:aloha
Date: 95-12-30 01:16:45 EST
From: Ron Hite
Posted on: America Online
There *IS* a client for Microsoft Mail! :-) (for Windows anyway, the Mac side won't be ready til March or so) :-(
Ron Hite
http://users.aol.com/ronhite
Subj: Re:aloha
Date: 95-12-30 11:20:17 EST
From: Howard ST
Posted on: America Online
>>There *IS* a client for Microsoft Mail! :-) (for Windows anyway, the Mac side won't be ready til March or so) :-(>>
Really!!! ? Windows is what I need actually (its what my company uses)... Where do I get it???
-H
Subj: Re:New possibilties...
Date: 95-12-30 11:43:12 EST
From: Hufn
Posted on: America Online
<<Why don't you just get Eudora Lite (for the Newton)?>>
But it is not a stand-alone. you need to hook up to a pc that has eudora running. Aloha can be used by itself.
Hufn
Howard Janoff, Find us at Keyword: Newton
--Now working on a somewhat official basis for the PDA arena 8-)
Subj: Connection Time Out Error
Date: 95-12-31 22:47:36 EST
From: Ronk1
Posted on: America Online
I keep getting a connection timed out error (I believe -160009). I get a "connected at 14400 or 22000" message (depending upon whether I am using Sprint or AOLnet. I am using Aloha 2.02 and Newton O/S 2.0
ron
Subj: Re:Connection Time Out Error
Date: 96-01-01 11:44:39 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
I had the same problem untill I changed my modem settings. I have it set to hayes basic now. (I have a zoom 14.4 desktop mac modem). It was confused a little, because with the other setting, it would connect, but then I would get a time-out error.
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
See Ryan on the Info-SuperHighway @
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Re:Connection Time Out Error
Date: 96-01-01 16:32:57 EST
From: Ronk1
Posted on: America Online
RPGOP:
Thanks - I'll try the other modem settings.
ron
Subj: Shortcut to Aloha
Date: 96-01-01 19:09:12 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
Since so many want to download Aloha, we've installed a shortcut to the Aloha portions of Hardy's home page. Just look in the Newton Web Sites here, and choose one of the two Aloha URL items at the top of the list. ;)
Subj: Site Information
Date: 96-01-01 19:46:50 EST
From: TWWilliams
Posted on: America Online
I need to dial *70, from home and 9, when I'm at work to connect via Aloha to AOL. I have set up appropriate site information for myself in the owner info area, and when I choose to mail the message, I click in the icon in the upper left hand corner and select my home owner info. Then when I choose to send the message, Aloha doesn't dial the appropriate prefix.
Am I doing something wrong?
BTW, this is Aloha 2.0.2 on OS 2.0.
Thanks.
-- Tommy
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 96-01-02 09:20:43 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
Once the program is loaded onto the Newton, even if you get error messages from NBU/NCK the program should be OK to run.
Make sure your Network type is set correctly for the number you are connecting to. There are a lot more choices now.
Hardy
Subj: Re:Error....
Date: 96-01-02 09:22:54 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>OK, what does this mean...
>Time out error...
>-16005
-16005 is the normal timed out message. There were a lot of other error #s in previous versions that were not really time out errors.
What is happening is that your network type is not set correctly. What number are you dialing and what network do you have selected?
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Crash
Date: 96-01-02 09:25:41 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> I was trying to scrub Aloha 2.01 (which I was never able to get working)
> when it crashed my Newton, I now cannot start up my Newton after a soft
> reset it gets stuck in "Activating packages on the store "internal"" the
> bar doesn't move an it just sits there, it's 10:30 PM I can't call
> SOSAPPL. can anyone help, must I do a hard reset and loose the last few
> days. HELP!!
Reset the Newton and hold the pen a 1/4 inch from the lefthand margin in the middle of the screen. The Newton will ask if you want to activate the packages. Tap no. Once the Newton is up scrub out Aloha if it is still there. Then you can download Aloha 2.02 which fixes the bug in 2.0/2.01 that you were experiencing.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:aloha
Date: 96-01-02 09:28:15 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> Is there a known limit to the number of items aloha can download? Also,
> it would be better, if aloha can't handle the amount of stuff thats in
> your in box, if it said so rather than just making it look like there
> was nothing in there.
It depends a lot on AOL at the time. Sometimes AOL is nice and only sends 40 messages at a time to Aloha. In which case Aloha shouldn't have any problems downloading hundreds of messages. But, if AOL just tries to send all 100+ messages then ALoha is limited by the amount of heap memory you have available.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 96-01-02 09:29:18 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> The second problem still exists. I can get no farther than "connected
> at 2400" and everything freezes. Don't know what else to do. Any
> ideas?
What number and network are you connecting to?
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Site Information
Date: 96-01-02 09:32:04 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> I need to dial *70, from home and 9, when I'm at work to connect via
> Aloha to AOL. I have set up appropriate site information for myself in
> the owner info area, and when I choose to mail the message, I click in
> the icon in the upper left hand corner and select my home owner info.
> Then when I choose to send the message, Aloha doesn't dial the
> appropriate prefix.
Add the number *70,555-1212 in the phone number field in the ALoha preferences. Tap the <> black diamond and add to popup. Then write the other number 9,555-1212 andTap the <> black diamond and add to popup.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Site Information
Date: 96-01-02 13:15:05 EST
From: TWWilliams
Posted on: America Online
<<Add the number *70,555-1212 in the phone number field in the ALoha preferences. Tap the <> black diamond and add to popup. Then write the other number 9,555-1212 andTap the <> black diamond and add to popup.>>
I was afraid that's what I would have to do. I was hoping that Aloha would be able to take advantage of the information entered in the owner site slip. I guess only the built-in eWorld software does so.
Thanks for a great product.
-- Tommy
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 96-01-02 17:34:18 EST
From: TLBahensky
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
I believe I already e-mailed you the number and network. Just in case you didn't get it the number was (313) 326-4210 on SprintNet. I tried another local SprintNet number (313) 741-8488 and it worked as well as the 800 number you include in the readme files that come with Aloha 2.02. My e-mail also mentioned that I could only have one access number in my popup list. Any attempts to add other numbers resulted in a "Item exists in popup list. Duplicates are not allowed:. This was the case even if the number was not a duplicate.
TLBahensky
Subj: Aloha and Newton OS 1.3
Date: 96-01-03 09:51:41 EST
From: AussieRN
Posted on: America Online
What is the latest version of Aloha for the Newton MP with OS 1.3?
Thankyou in advance
John
Subj: Re:Aloha and Newton OS 1.3
Date: 96-01-03 16:14:17 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
> What is the latest version of Aloha for the Newton
> MP with OS 1.3?
Version 1.1--you can download it from Hardy's web page. We have a shortcut to it in the Newton Web Links section (keyword NEWTON).
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Mon. & Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
Subj: Aloha 2.02
Date: 96-01-03 18:48:39 EST
From: RHWurst
Posted on: America Online
I just downloaded the latest version of Aloha 2.02 with file name: aloha202.hqx from Hardy's Web page.
How do I get this into a package format that the Newton will recognize? Looking forward to getting my Newt/AOL access back.
Rich
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02
Date: 96-01-03 18:53:24 EST
From: RHWurst
Posted on: America Online
I should have mentioned that aloha202.hqx was downloaded from the web page with my IBM THinkpad then emailed back to myself for download from AOL for transfer to my Newton with my Mac.
Rich
Subj: Aloha and reply....
Date: 96-01-03 20:14:54 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
I recently noticed that (on page 14 of late breaking news booklet, that came with my 2.0 120) that there is supposed to be a function where-in you can highlight text in a recieved e-mail, tap tag, and then tap relpy, and newton should insert that text into the reply slip.
I talked to Apple people, and they told me that this in fact should happen,
and I was wondering if it was Aloha who was the culprate (I tried starting up Newton w/o packages, but, couldn't view e-mail w/o Aloha), and if any one else has had this (extremely minor) problem.
Hardy, and thoughts?
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
See Ryan on the Info-SuperHighway @
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Re:Aloha and reply....
Date: 96-01-03 21:58:44 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
> I recently noticed that (on page 14 of late breaking news booklet, that
> came with my 2.0 120) that there is supposed to be a function where-in
> you can highlight text in a recieved e-mail, tap tag, and then tap
> relpy, and newton should insert that text into the reply slip.
This only works with eworld mail. Aloha does not have this feature.
Hardy Macia
Catamount Software
http://www.together.net/~hardy
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 96-01-03 22:02:49 EST
From: HardyMacia
Posted on: America Online
>My e-mail also mentioned that I could only have one
>access number in my popup list. Any attempts to
>add other numbers resulted in a "Item exists in
>popup list.
Not sure why this is happening. No other reports of this happening yet. Try erasing the phone number and adding it again.
Hardy
Subj: Re:Aloha and reply....
Date: 96-01-03 22:09:54 EST
From: RPGOP
Posted on: America Online
<<This only works with eworld mail. Aloha does not have this feature.>>
Got cha.
Thanks.
Ryan P. Kennedy
rpgop@aol.com
See Ryan on the Info-SuperHighway @
http://user.aol.com/rpgop/
"Champion of everything Apple since 1994"
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02 & NBU for Wind
Date: 96-01-03 23:03:19 EST
From: TLBahensky
Posted on: America Online
Hardy,
After several attempts yesterday to add additional numbers to my popup without success, I tried again today and it works just fine. Don't have a clue as to why it is working now but I am not going to complain. Everything is working fine now.
Thanks
TLBahensky
Subj: Re:Aloha 2.02
Date: 96-01-04 09:05:48 EST
From: Hufn
Posted on: America Online
<<I should have mentioned that aloha202.hqx was downloaded from the web page with my IBM THinkpad then emailed back to myself for download from AOL for transfer to my Newton with my Mac.>>
Very neat :) The .hqx file is a binary encodedd format used for much of the internet trafficing software. If you are going to use it on the mac then use Stuffit expander to decode the package. you will then be left with the Aloha folder with a bunch of goodies inside. The files that are markes *.pkg are the packages. Read the Readme to figure out what you need to install for your system :)
Hufn
Howard Janoff, Find us at Keyword: Newton
--Now working on a somewhat official basis for the PDA arena 8-)
Subj: NO POST--FOLDER FULL...
Date: 96-01-04 16:39:50 EST
From: PDA Craig
Posted on: America Online
This folder is full--please continue the discussions in the new Aloha Pt 2 folder. :)
We'll be archiving the messages from this folder and posting them in the library in a few days.
Craig de Fasselle
PDA Forum Leader
(Conferences Mon. & Wed. at 9:30 pm ET -- Keyword PDA)
